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No level of alcohol consumption is safe for our health

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Re: No level of alcohol consumption is safe for our health

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Post by quantified »

joemazerino wrote: post #11

I despise the WHO generally but this article is solid. There is too much confusion about alcohol in the medical industry. If you ask European doctors having a glass or two of wine "extends health". If you research typical government guidelines, they say a drink or two a day isn't bad or may even say it's "healthy" [1] The facts are facts. Alcohol is a poison that wrecks havoc on your mind and body. If having one drin…

Guess we better give up alcohol swabs, can't be rubbing known carcinogens on our bodies. Cause isopropyl is poisonous too.

Re: No level of alcohol consumption is safe for our health

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Post by ugjka »

cinntaile wrote: post #64
ozim wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It gets worse where people get issues and they start looking for some diet supplements or pills for "better liver" ,"concentration problems" or whatever else. When first thing they should do is stop drinking alcohol. In the reddit thread about article there was someone who could not connect the dots that after drinking alcohol they would have hangover the next day.

> In the reddit thread about article there was someone who could not connect the dots that after drinking alcohol they would have hangover the next day. To me it sounds like you have been trolled.

on the internet someone said something

Re: No level of alcohol consumption is safe for our health

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Post by misiti3780 »

rubyist5eva wrote: post #105

As I’m getting older I’ve basically had to swear off alchohol and marijuana completely. Even if I don’t get intoxicated (or stoned), I nearly always just feel like absolute garbage the next day (not hangover, just feel gross and groggy). Sometimes it’s lasted for days, even when I only have one drink or smoke barely enough weed to get a little buzzed. Fortunately I’ve also reached a point where I just don’t really fe…

it's pretty simple, drink a lots of water while consuming and avoid high S02 + ABV based beverages.

Re: No level of alcohol consumption is safe for our health

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Post by hackandthink »

David Spiegelhalter of BUGS fame:

"So a total of 50,000 bottles of gin among these 1,600 people is associated with one extra health problem. Which still indicates a very low level of harm in drinkers drinking just more than the UK guidelines."

https://medium.com/wintoncentre/the-risks-of-alcohol-again-2...

The WHO is fear mongering.

Maybe it is good health politics, people are scared of alcohol and people will have a better live.

Maybe it would be better to communicate the risks more quantitavily. Not everyone is stupid.

Re: No level of alcohol consumption is safe for our health

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Post by rco8786 »

marcosdumay wrote: post #87
rco8786 wrote: post #51

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That’s basically 1 pint a day, or 16 oz as the ceiling for “light”. That seems reasonable? Not the amount necessarily just the classification.

If you drink the average every day, you will spend a large part of your days inebriated. And if you don't drink the average every day, you will be deeply drunk every few days. It's completely unreasonable to call that level of consumption "light".

1 beer is not going to make anybody inebriated for a large part of their day. 3-4 beers will put someone into a good buzz but most will not be “deeply drunk” from that.

And again, this is the UPPER BOUND. not the average as you say

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Post by nfw2 »

dividedbyzero wrote: post #117
api wrote: post #61

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That’s not really universally true. There are plenty of things where any amount does harm.

Which ones are like that?

Allergens, pathogens, radioactive material, lead — any more than trace amounts of these is dangerous.

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Post by frereubu »

zabzonk wrote: post #80
rileymat2 wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> “We cannot talk about a so-called safe level of alcohol use. It doesn’t matter how much you drink – the risk to the drinker’s health starts from the first drop of any alcoholic beverage. The only thing that we can say for sure is that the more you drink, the more harmful it is – or, in other words, the less you drink, the safer it is,” explains Dr Carina Ferreira-Borges, acting Unit Lead for Noncommunicable Disease…

of course, this "expert" has no self-interest for pushing this kind of stuff?

You’d get more traction for this kind of comment if you’d taken the time to check rather than cast vague aspersions. And if you have checked, detail it here.

Re: No level of alcohol consumption is safe for our health

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Post by barbazoo »

zabzonk wrote: post #80
rileymat2 wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> “We cannot talk about a so-called safe level of alcohol use. It doesn’t matter how much you drink – the risk to the drinker’s health starts from the first drop of any alcoholic beverage. The only thing that we can say for sure is that the more you drink, the more harmful it is – or, in other words, the less you drink, the safer it is,” explains Dr Carina Ferreira-Borges, acting Unit Lead for Noncommunicable Disease…

of course, this "expert" has no self-interest for pushing this kind of stuff?

What would that self interest be?
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