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No level of alcohol consumption is safe for our health

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Re: No level of alcohol consumption is safe for our health

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> However, latest available data indicate that half of all alcohol-attributable cancers in the WHO European Region are caused by “light” and “moderate” alcohol consumption – less than 1.5 litres of wine or less than 3.5 litres of beer or less than 450 millilitres of spirits per week Half a litre of beer a day is considered "light"?

A bottle is 0.33 (or 330ml)

Where is that? 330ml bottles definitely exist, but 0.5l is the default in Austria.

Re: No level of alcohol consumption is safe for our health

#104

Beverages which taste exactly the same but has no harmful alcohol or toxic side effects, would people still want the toxic version?

at least for me, depends. i don't like the way alcohol-free beer tastes -- it's just not the same.

sometimes i drink a nice whiskey because i love the taste (specially when paired with a nice cigar), but sometimes i drink to get tipsy because... well, it's fun for me.

it's like the difference between normal cake and cake infused with thc: i will eat cake for dessert, but sometimes, ingesting infused cake is more fun.

Re: No level of alcohol consumption is safe for our health

#105
As I’m getting older I’ve basically had to swear off alchohol and marijuana completely. Even if I don’t get intoxicated (or stoned), I nearly always just feel like absolute garbage the next day (not hangover, just feel gross and groggy). Sometimes it’s lasted for days, even when I only have one drink or smoke barely enough weed to get a little buzzed. Fortunately I’ve also reached a point where I just don’t really feel good from being intoxicated either so I don’t really have a recreational incentive to do it anymore either.

I don’t know how these things affect other people’s “sober lives” but if it’s anything like that I don’t see how people can function when getting intoxicated semi-regularly. The cost-benefit just seems completely lobsided.

Re: No level of alcohol consumption is safe for our health

#107
post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>If having one drink can decompress you after a hard days work, fine, you're not gonna get cancer. That would seem to contradict the headline, and content, that there's a safe level of alcohol consumption. In fact, the WHO really takes that claim seriously -- the headline is not a simplification: >>when it comes to alcohol consumption, there is no safe amount that does not affect health ... Alcohol causes at least se…

"not gonna get cancer" is in no way contradicting the headline. There's plenty of non-cancerous dangers in the world.

Except that a) the WHO says that amount knowably increases cancer risk (and so the author would disagree with the parent's comment), and b) if you just say "it won't have harm X" while not endorsing harms you think it has, you're implying there are no harms. As long as the parent wasn't endorsing the WHO's claim of harm from that level, he's disagreeing with the thesis.

Re: No level of alcohol consumption is safe for our health

#109

I despise the WHO generally but this article is solid. There is too much confusion about alcohol in the medical industry. If you ask European doctors having a glass or two of wine "extends health". If you research typical government guidelines, they say a drink or two a day isn't bad or may even say it's "healthy" [1] The facts are facts. Alcohol is a poison that wrecks havoc on your mind and body. If having one drin…

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Re: No level of alcohol consumption is safe for our health

#110

Beverages which taste exactly the same but has no harmful alcohol or toxic side effects, would people still want the toxic version?

There are plenty of such 0% and drinks and they aren’t nearly as popular. People are after the effects, the taste is secondary.
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