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“All alcohol consumption appears to be harmful” can be stated without “OMG CANCER UR GONNA DIE” equivalents if you are serious and responsible.
I understand that the statement "only no alcohol is really safe" is correct. But it is not helpful in my everyday life. Exactly the same problem exists with gasoline. It is simply not possible (or extremely costly) to completely avoid the substance or their effects. To refuse a beer in Germany is an affront that I would like to weigh against the risk of cancer. In fact, I have found information on the question: The d…
> refuse a beer in Germany is an affront that I would like to weigh against the risk of cancer Refusing a cigarette used to have a similar insult; and also you weren’t cool if you refused That’s changed after decades of press and cancer warning labels on tobacco. Let’s hope the same happens with alcohol.
Why? You have all the required information to make an educated decision for yourself. Others do too. Allow them to decide without harassment.
I quit smoking cigarettes and drinking alcohol years ago now. As the calculus changed, my habits followed suit. Everyone should be allowed to choose how they live.
Saving you a click: https://www.who.int/europe/news/item/04-01-2023-no-level-of-...
And this is the Lancet article summarising the research: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpub/article/PIIS2468-2... The proportion of cancers attributable to alcohol is 4.1% of all cases, from [1]. Of that, the ‘Light to Moderate’ alcohol category ( 1. https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanonc/article/PIIS1470-2...
All cause mortality is lower among light drinkers than non-drinkers. Small doses of harms are typically beneficial. Not all harm is bad, and safety is not always desirable.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
you don't need the cinnamon, just the toast [studies say]
Link? I thought cinnamon was good for blood pressure?
Ethanol is metabolized to acetaldehyde in the body. Acetaldehyde causes DNA damage. https://academic.oup.com/carcin/article/43/1/52/6373372
as do lots of things, many practically unavoidable
Saving you a click: https://www.who.int/europe/news/item/04-01-2023-no-level-of-...
And this is the Lancet article summarising the research: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpub/article/PIIS2468-2... The proportion of cancers attributable to alcohol is 4.1% of all cases, from [1]. Of that, the ‘Light to Moderate’ alcohol category ( 1. https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanonc/article/PIIS1470-2...
But anyway, I always take such research with a grain of salt (or maybe with a glass of wine) because alcohol consumption has personal relationship benefits
Also not discounting the possibility that it's another "fat is bad" craze
Well according to the American Cancer Society, alcoholic beverages are a Group 1 Carcinogen. Right up there with Asbestos, UV radiation, Tobacco smoke, and Diesel exhaust. https://www.cancer.org/healthy/cancer-causes/general-info/kn... There probably a story somewhere as to why cigarettes get big labels and beer cans don't.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
And this is the Lancet article summarising the research: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpub/article/PIIS2468-2... The proportion of cancers attributable to alcohol is 4.1% of all cases, from [1]. Of that, the ‘Light to Moderate’ alcohol category ( 1. https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanonc/article/PIIS1470-2...
2 bottles of wine per week is already quite a bit. If you are a couple, you pop a bottle more than every second day.
> To identify a “safe” level of alcohol consumption, valid scientific evidence would need to demonstrate that at and below a certain level, there is no risk of illness or injury associated with alcohol consumption that's such a broken premise that everything that comes after that must be broken as well. We could prove, using the same logic, that "no level of life consumption is safe for our health" It is impossible t…
Alcohol consumption is always a net health risk. It's also quite fun and adults should be allowed to do what they want with their bodies. But one should always be aware of the risks. The statement "alcohol is not bad for my health" is only true if a person is about to die from alcohol withdrawal symptoms.
No.
Or, if you accept that definition, the air you breathe is even more dangerous for your health.
Food is even more dangerous than air. [1]
> The statement "alcohol is not bad for my health" is
somewhat true.
The kind of food popular in USA average diet is killing a lot more people.
The solution is not to stop eating altogether, but to eat less and better.
It's exactly the same for alcohol.
Because I can assure you that working is not good for your health too.
[1] edit: number 1 cause of death in USA is heart diseases, for both men and women.
There are a lot of studies that associated processed food with an increase of heart related disease, it's also not news anymore at this point.
an excerpt from this NYT article, among many of the same kind
More than 100 million adults — almost half the entire adult population — have pre-diabetes or diabetes. Cardiovascular disease afflicts about 122 million people and causes roughly 840,000 deaths each year, or about 2,300 deaths each day. Three in four adults are overweight or obese. More Americans are sick, in other words, than are healthy.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/26/opinion/food-nutrition-he...