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WHO: No level of alcohol consumption is safe for our health

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Re: WHO: No level of alcohol consumption is safe for our health

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Birthdays are especially dangerous, I hear.

I once saw them as one step closer to the grave. Now, I see them as another year survived.

Looking in the rear view mirror, huh? Me too... Me too.

Re: WHO: No level of alcohol consumption is safe for our health

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I understand that the statement "only no alcohol is really safe" is correct. But it is not helpful in my everyday life. Exactly the same problem exists with gasoline. It is simply not possible (or extremely costly) to completely avoid the substance or their effects. To refuse a beer in Germany is an affront that I would like to weigh against the risk of cancer.

In fact, I have found information on the question: The daily consumption of 50 grams of pure alcohol - equivalent to about 1.5 liters of beer or 0.5 liters of wine - increases the risk of cancer two- to threefold.

Continuously high alcohol consumption is also one of the main causes of liver cancer. Consuming more than 80 grams of alcohol (about 2 liters of beer) per day increases the risk of liver cancer by a factor of four to seven. Women have a significantly higher alcohol-related liver cancer risk than men.

Increased risk of cancer of the colon and rectum begins at four glasses per day. Compared to people living abstinent from alcohol, this increases the risk of cancer by 1.4 times.

The risk of breast cancer in women increases from just one daily glass of an alcoholic beverage (e.g. 0.3 liters of beer). Each additional glass increases the risk by about seven percent.

Source: https://www.kenn-dein-limit.de/alkoholkonsum/folgen-von-alko... (the website is from a German authority that provides information about addiction, etc.)

Re: WHO: No level of alcohol consumption is safe for our health

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Well according to the American Cancer Society, alcoholic beverages are a Group 1 Carcinogen. Right up there with Asbestos, UV radiation, Tobacco smoke, and Diesel exhaust. https://www.cancer.org/healthy/cancer-causes/general-info/kn... There probably a story somewhere as to why cigarettes get big labels and beer cans don't.

the story is that cigarettes are well researched and documented to cause agressive lung cancers, heart disease and many other problems. the story on alcohol is much less clear and even if true, much lower risk

Re: WHO: No level of alcohol consumption is safe for our health

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> To identify a “safe” level of alcohol consumption, valid scientific evidence would need to demonstrate that at and below a certain level, there is no risk of illness or injury associated with alcohol consumption that's such a broken premise that everything that comes after that must be broken as well. We could prove, using the same logic, that "no level of life consumption is safe for our health" It is impossible t…

Alcohol consumption is always a net health risk. It's also quite fun and adults should be allowed to do what they want with their bodies. But one should always be aware of the risks. The statement "alcohol is not bad for my health" is only true if a person is about to die from alcohol withdrawal symptoms.

Re: WHO: No level of alcohol consumption is safe for our health

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Well according to the American Cancer Society, alcoholic beverages are a Group 1 Carcinogen. Right up there with Asbestos, UV radiation, Tobacco smoke, and Diesel exhaust. https://www.cancer.org/healthy/cancer-causes/general-info/kn... There probably a story somewhere as to why cigarettes get big labels and beer cans don't.

Possibly because beer can be fun and cigarettes are just highly addictive

Re: WHO: No level of alcohol consumption is safe for our health

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Well according to the American Cancer Society, alcoholic beverages are a Group 1 Carcinogen. Right up there with Asbestos, UV radiation, Tobacco smoke, and Diesel exhaust. https://www.cancer.org/healthy/cancer-causes/general-info/kn... There probably a story somewhere as to why cigarettes get big labels and beer cans don't.

I think the fact that smoking forces others around you to smoke, whereas drinking doesn't is a big part of it. Along with the fact that drinking occasionally is far more common than smoking occasionally. Nicotine is far more adictive.

Re: WHO: No level of alcohol consumption is safe for our health

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I once saw them as one step closer to the grave. Now, I see them as another year survived.

Looking in the rear view mirror, huh? Me too... Me too.

I think, it's a nice though.

Life isn't always roses, but I got through it.

Re: WHO: No level of alcohol consumption is safe for our health

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Ethanol is metabolized to acetaldehyde in the body. Acetaldehyde causes DNA damage. https://academic.oup.com/carcin/article/43/1/52/6373372

UV too. So basically direct exposure to Sun light should be avoided. edit: UV do cause DNA damage, so following the same logic, no amount of Sun light can be considered safe. Which is true, but the effects are usually negligible, so, as usual, common sense is your best friend.

Ask any dermatologist and they'll absolutely tell you to protect yourself from the sun.
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