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David Guetta uses ChatGPT and uberduck.ai to deepfake Eminem rap for DJ set

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Suspect Eminem himself would have a more nuanced take on this than the ‘of course this is okay’ or ‘this is never okay’ responses it’s getting right here. Number 1: Hip hop’s built (to at least as great an extent as EDM) on sampling. And while the degree of respect for clearing and getting authorization to use samples has varied over the years and between artists, as a reference point, Eminem’s breakthrough ‘My Name…

As Guetta notes on Twitter, he's not releasing this commercially.

Both hip hop and EDM have a huge culture of sampling live things they couldn't sample and release on an album.

Eminem has rapped over songs he doesn't own at concerts.

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Sony v Universal established a very important legal doctrine with regards to "commercially significant non-infringing use". You can take my word for it, you can go an do your own research, you can confirm with an IP lawyer, or you can wait for the the court's opinion. Or I guess you can give me a little bit of time to go and help you do some of your own research, which I will do right now, so just hold on a bit! I'm…

Edit: after the text you added, I believe we are essentially in agreement. IF it is accepted that the way GPT3 was created is a fair use of the works in the training data, THEN I fully agree that (1) OpenAI has every right to sell it even if (2) some uses of it would still constitute copyright infringement, since (3) only specific users would be liable for copyright infringement in their uses. Where we differ is in h…

I honestly think you're more certain because you want the courts to rule in a certain manner.

I'm more certain because I'm thinking about this separately from my opinions as to how the courts will rule. Yes, I will just so happen to agree with that ruling because I happen to agree with the logic and knowledge contained in our legal process. I agree that the existing legal doctrines already capture the spirit of what we are asking them to judge. I agree that the statutory law, case law and doctrine that informs their judgement will successfully balance both the limited rights of copyright holders and the natural rights of a public to unburdened access to the arts, knowledge and information. I agree with their process of balancing the potential impact on existing commercial practice with the potential impact on new forms of commercially significant non-infringing practices.

Some things in copyright might just seem unfair, like the case of Baker v Selden:

In 1859, Charles Selden obtained copyright in a book he wrote called Selden's Condensed Ledger, or Book-keeping Simplified. In it the book described an improved system of book-keeping. The books contained about twenty pages of primarily book-keeping forms and only about 650 words. In addition, the books contained examples and an introduction. In the following years Selden made several other books, improving on the initial system. In total, Selden wrote six books, though, evidence suggests that they were really six editions of the same book.

Selden, however, was unsuccessful in selling his books. He originally believed he could sell his system to several counties and the United States Department of the Treasury. Those sales never happened. Selden was forced to assign his interest—an interest that apparently was returned to his wife after his death in 1871.

In 1867, W.C.M. Baker produced a book describing a very similar system. Unlike Selden, Baker was more successful at selling his book–selling it to some 40 counties within five years.

Selden's widow, Elizabeth Selden, hired an attorney, Samuel S. Fisher, a former Commissioner of Patents. In 1872, Fisher filed suit against Baker for copyright infringement.

The poor old widow lost. Boohoo. But this was a just ruling!

I'm not sure that the people who think that ChatGPT is guilty of copyright infringement are thinking about the issue in a balanced manner. Luckily our courts probably will!

One strategy that the defense could use to lower their risk profile is to allow open access to their models and allow an entire ecosystem of commercially significant non-infringing uses to blossom because they are aware of how the courts will be influenced based on existing statutory and legal doctrine...

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The music industry will not like this, seems like a short circuit around royalties and the value of a music deal with an artist.

On the other hand, you might be able to clear royalties quicker, so long as you emphasize its AI with permission, now nobody has to spend money on studio time recording new vocals for some one off DJ remix.

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The venue he's playing at would have to have a general license with the big labels, from which some money would go to Eminem.

In which country is that true? In the UK for example venues need to be registered with the PRS (Performing Rights Society) but their fees are relatively low and the funds they collect are distributed based on surveys with the venues - once every year or two someone will come to the venue and ask them to write down the top 20 or so artists / tracks that they play. It's not very targeted or accurate. https://www.prsfor…

Sorry, didn't mean to suggest it was target specifically to Eminem, just that some of the money would get to him via the general performance license. As far as I understand PRS is a common model.

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I believe David Guetta that he was really just playing around with these cool tools here (who isn't blown away by them?). But I guess it won't go unnoticed by the teams and investors of uberduck and other AI startups that this is the perfect guerilla marketing stunt. Gotta admit it, I am guilty too, never heard of uberduck before and caught myself creating an account and browsing their pricing site today.

what makes you think it wasnt sponsored by uberduck?

Re: David Guetta uses ChatGPT and uberduck.ai to deepfake Eminem rap for DJ set

#146

A YouTuber called "30 Hertz" has been making several fake Eminem songs (+other artists) for 2 years now, in very good quality. An example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMunOszEQHE

Full length (much better): https://youtu.be/WtFNOSTTPYg

Re: David Guetta uses ChatGPT and uberduck.ai to deepfake Eminem rap for DJ set

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The music industry will not like this, seems like a short circuit around royalties and the value of a music deal with an artist.

What song did Eminem write that he would be owed loyalties for?

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Re: David Guetta uses ChatGPT and uberduck.ai to deepfake Eminem rap for DJ set

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yup, this could be more like Daft Punk using samples.

Which is completely illegal without permission from the artist they sample.

In reality just like a DJ doesn’t need to go and get permission for each record they play, they just pay a blanket fee for that.
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