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Windows 11 is collecting more user data than you know

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Re: Windows 11 is collecting more user data than you know

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Post by nerdjon »

ArnoVW wrote: post #28
nerdjon wrote: post #16

I recently rebuilt my computer and figured I would just go with Windows 11 to have all the new features and compatibility. I have been seriously debating on reinstalling and going back to 10. Just yesterday "gaming services" just decided it no longer wanted to run. With the talk of how much data this thing collects it really makes me uneasy. Even though I only use it for gaming (I use my Mac for everything else)... I…

I switched to Ubuntu recently. Never looking back. There are still minor painpoints, but they pale in comparison with the mess that has become Windows.

Since this is really just a gaming PC I really don't feel comfortable going the linux route for it.

I know there is proton, but at the end of the day what matters for me is that my games work, I can record and stream. I know Linux Gaming has come a long way but until all of my games are running natively, I don't want to make the switch. Its the same reason I don't just have a nice Mac.

Re: Windows 11 is collecting more user data than you know

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Post by Grazester »

smoldesu wrote: post #21
Grazester wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Once again that is because you can only lawfully run MacOS on Apple Hardware. Read the EULA. Therefore if you have the hardware it is assumed you or someone paid Apple for it so the software was also indirectly bought with it.

That doesn't mean I inherantly paid for it. My dad could hand me down his old Mac and I would be able to lawfully download and use it without spending a dime. The software is free (to download), it is not freely licensed though.

Does it matter who hands you the software? If he didn't download it then you could have done so yourself, there was nothing preventing you from doing so and using it on the Mac that was already paid for(even if not by you).

Re: Windows 11 is collecting more user data than you know

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Post by hiccuphippo »

I heard of this [0] software called O&O shutup that can disable all the calling home in Windows 11, does anyone have experience with it? I used to use privatezilla [1] in Windows 10 but I think they don't support Windows 11 yet.

[0] https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10 [1] https://github.com/builtbybel/privatezilla

Re: Windows 11 is collecting more user data than you know

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Post by SanjayMehta »

ArnoVW wrote: post #28
nerdjon wrote: post #16

I recently rebuilt my computer and figured I would just go with Windows 11 to have all the new features and compatibility. I have been seriously debating on reinstalling and going back to 10. Just yesterday "gaming services" just decided it no longer wanted to run. With the talk of how much data this thing collects it really makes me uneasy. Even though I only use it for gaming (I use my Mac for everything else)... I…

I switched to Ubuntu recently. Never looking back. There are still minor painpoints, but they pale in comparison with the mess that has become Windows.

I'm on Linux Mint.

Vivado works. No need for Windows or Centos or Redhat.

Re: Windows 11 is collecting more user data than you know

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Post by version_five »

I've got a macbook nearing end of life and frustration with apple (the company, not the hardware which I'm happy with) has been pushing me to consider windows. It's good to get these reminders of how smarmy Microsoft is. I think I'll probably grit my teeth and buy another mac

Re: Windows 11 is collecting more user data than you know

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Post by wintermutestwin »

My windows box can only collect data related to Steam and the games I play on it. I also keep it isolated from the rest of my network.

Windows has been relegated to a status of "toy OS" to me as I do all my real work and non-gaming play on Mac and Linux. Great job MS!

Re: Windows 11 is collecting more user data than you know

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Post by boomboomsubban »

smoldesu wrote: post #21
Grazester wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Once again that is because you can only lawfully run MacOS on Apple Hardware. Read the EULA. Therefore if you have the hardware it is assumed you or someone paid Apple for it so the software was also indirectly bought with it.

That doesn't mean I inherantly paid for it. My dad could hand me down his old Mac and I would be able to lawfully download and use it without spending a dime. The software is free (to download), it is not freely licensed though.

Pretty sure I can freely download Windows 11 too, and if my father passed me down his old laptop I could reinstall Windows on it.

I get what you're saying, but MacOS isn't cost free. It's only sold bundled with Apple hardware, and you must buy both.

Re: Windows 11 is collecting more user data than you know

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Post by gjsman-1000 »

smoldesu wrote: post #21
Grazester wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Once again that is because you can only lawfully run MacOS on Apple Hardware. Read the EULA. Therefore if you have the hardware it is assumed you or someone paid Apple for it so the software was also indirectly bought with it.

That doesn't mean I inherantly paid for it. My dad could hand me down his old Mac and I would be able to lawfully download and use it without spending a dime. The software is free (to download), it is not freely licensed though.

> My dad could hand me down his old Mac and I would be able to lawfully download and use it without spending a dime.

You would be able to lawfully download it, but you would only be able to lawfully use it on an Apple-branded computer (which, by definition legally speaking, requires a computer that was legally manufactured by Apple).

Look up Apple Inc. v. Psystar Corp., a company that tried to get around Apple's EULA for this exact clause using every gymnastic of law imaginable. They lost multiple appeals, were charged millions in damages, and went bankrupt.

Re: Windows 11 is collecting more user data than you know

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Post by fakedang »

version_five wrote: post #36

I've got a macbook nearing end of life and frustration with apple (the company, not the hardware which I'm happy with) has been pushing me to consider windows. It's good to get these reminders of how smarmy Microsoft is. I think I'll probably grit my teeth and buy another mac

Go with Linux and don't look back. Preferably mint, which is quite similar to the Windows look. The only issue I've faced is MS Office, but that's what I have my Mac for.
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