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Windows 11 is collecting more user data than you know

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Re: Windows 11 is collecting more user data than you know

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Post by smoldesu »

Grazester wrote: post #10
smoldesu wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, but lawfully downloading MacOS costs nothing as far as I'm aware. Same goes for Linux, albeit with different licensing considerations. I just found the wording of the article funny, since it seems to run contrary to their report.

Once again that is because you can only lawfully run MacOS on Apple Hardware. Read the EULA. Therefore if you have the hardware it is assumed you or someone paid Apple for it so the software was also indirectly bought with it.

That doesn't mean I inherantly paid for it. My dad could hand me down his old Mac and I would be able to lawfully download and use it without spending a dime.

The software is free (to download), it is not freely licensed though.

Re: Windows 11 is collecting more user data than you know

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Post by Maursault »

gjsman-1000 wrote: post #13

We had a similar link yesterday, in which there was one major flaw in the methodology: Windows 11, when set up, tires to load everything including the "Widgets." The Widgets, however, are not a native Windows app - the Widgets interface is actually just a Microsoft Edge WebView2, which loads a page from Bing. And, as a web wrapper, it also loads in all of Bing's telemetry that would normally apply to Bing searches, s…

Then I guess it's alright, then.

Re: Windows 11 is collecting more user data than you know

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Post by smoldesu »

323 wrote: post #11
smoldesu wrote: post #2

> but you know the old adage, “If you are not paying for the product, then you are the product.” Isn't that a bit ironic considering Windows' two widely-regarded competitors (MacOS and Linux) technically cost nothing?

More importantly - if you don't pay for HN, you are the product.

Sometimes it feels that way, given how many ads I wade through for the good stuff.

Re: Windows 11 is collecting more user data than you know

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Post by jdthedisciple »

nerdjon wrote: post #16

I recently rebuilt my computer and figured I would just go with Windows 11 to have all the new features and compatibility. I have been seriously debating on reinstalling and going back to 10. Just yesterday "gaming services" just decided it no longer wanted to run. With the talk of how much data this thing collects it really makes me uneasy. Even though I only use it for gaming (I use my Mac for everything else)... I…

Everybody should know by now that Windows 11 is a vastly inferior product compared to 10.

Do not use it!!

Re: Windows 11 is collecting more user data than you know

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Post by theNewMicrosoft »

gjsman-1000 wrote: post #13

We had a similar link yesterday, in which there was one major flaw in the methodology: Windows 11, when set up, tires to load everything including the "Widgets." The Widgets, however, are not a native Windows app - the Widgets interface is actually just a Microsoft Edge WebView2, which loads a page from Bing. And, as a web wrapper, it also loads in all of Bing's telemetry that would normally apply to Bing searches, s…

True, and not that but they consume a lot of resources as-well

https://oofhours.com/2022/01/30/the-overhead-of-widgets-and-...

Re: Windows 11 is collecting more user data than you know

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Post by AraceliHarker »

Xylakant wrote: post #8
smoldesu wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, but lawfully downloading MacOS costs nothing as far as I'm aware. Same goes for Linux, albeit with different licensing considerations. I just found the wording of the article funny, since it seems to run contrary to their report.

The MacOS license only allows running it on apple hardware. You can download all you want, but legally using it requires a mac.

Windows for OEMs is licensed only for use on that PC, so it is no different from macOS in that respect.

Re: Windows 11 is collecting more user data than you know

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Post by ArnoVW »

nerdjon wrote: post #16

I recently rebuilt my computer and figured I would just go with Windows 11 to have all the new features and compatibility. I have been seriously debating on reinstalling and going back to 10. Just yesterday "gaming services" just decided it no longer wanted to run. With the talk of how much data this thing collects it really makes me uneasy. Even though I only use it for gaming (I use my Mac for everything else)... I…

I switched to Ubuntu recently. Never looking back. There are still minor painpoints, but they pale in comparison with the mess that has become Windows.

Re: Windows 11 is collecting more user data than you know

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Post by gjsman-1000 »

jdthedisciple wrote: post #25
nerdjon wrote: post #16

I recently rebuilt my computer and figured I would just go with Windows 11 to have all the new features and compatibility. I have been seriously debating on reinstalling and going back to 10. Just yesterday "gaming services" just decided it no longer wanted to run. With the talk of how much data this thing collects it really makes me uneasy. Even though I only use it for gaming (I use my Mac for everything else)... I…

Everybody should know by now that Windows 11 is a vastly inferior product compared to 10. Do not use it!!

Egh... I'm not so against it in real life. For example, we've had Microsoft Accounts for over a decade in my family, and the refined design in Windows 11, like it or not, is more consistent than the mystery meat of Windows 10. So, we really didn't mind. For average non-technical users, Windows 11 is definitely more friendly for even basic tasks like "how do I pair a Bluetooth speaker" than Windows 10's Settings Panel.

Though I completely understand and accept this isn't everyone. For us though, it was decent.

Re: Windows 11 is collecting more user data than you know

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Post by jacooper »

nerdjon wrote: post #16

I recently rebuilt my computer and figured I would just go with Windows 11 to have all the new features and compatibility. I have been seriously debating on reinstalling and going back to 10. Just yesterday "gaming services" just decided it no longer wanted to run. With the talk of how much data this thing collects it really makes me uneasy. Even though I only use it for gaming (I use my Mac for everything else)... I…

I mean is windows 10 collecting less data? I doubt it.
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