Google IP Vandalizing OpenStreetMap [Not a comprehensive post]
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Re: Google IP Vandalizing OpenStreetMap [Not a comprehensive post]
#2This is the user, but I'm having a rough time trying to identify the offending edits:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/kane123/edits
Has Google released any statement beyond the one that said "We were mortified to learn that a team of people..."?
I'm overly curious on the results from Google's investigation. I can see the connection with Mocality being mentioned, but vandalizing seems odd.
I would venture that this is coincidental.
Pick any branch office of a large enterprise or government and run a search for the IPs they use to access the internet. You'll find vandalism on Wikipedia, ancient guestbook messages, mailing list postings, etc.
I'm certainly not a Google apologist, but this just seems fishy.
Re: Google IP Vandalizing OpenStreetMap [Not a comprehensive post]
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Re: Google IP Vandalizing OpenStreetMap [Not a comprehensive post]
#4This is the user, but I'm having a rough time trying to identify the offending edits: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/kane123/edits Has Google released any statement beyond the one that said "We were mortified to learn that a team of people..."? I'm overly curious on the results from Google's investigation. I can see the connection with Mocality being mentioned, but vandalizing seems odd. I would venture that this…
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Re: Google IP Vandalizing OpenStreetMap [Not a comprehensive post]
#5This is the user, but I'm having a rough time trying to identify the offending edits: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/kane123/edits Has Google released any statement beyond the one that said "We were mortified to learn that a team of people..."? I'm overly curious on the results from Google's investigation. I can see the connection with Mocality being mentioned, but vandalizing seems odd. I would venture that this…
If these are the same as the Mocality people, I wonder how long before Google audits and fires them? I also wonder if we'll find out about any more wrongdoing.
Hopefully Google shuts them down soon.
Re: Google IP Vandalizing OpenStreetMap [Not a comprehensive post]
#6I can understand Mocality posting on a blog their findings, but this is an awful and not very credible way of make public your accusations.
Look forward to an explaination?... then contact them directly instead of "sand bagging" them (borrowing a colloquialism from Family Guy).
Re: Google IP Vandalizing OpenStreetMap [Not a comprehensive post]
#7This is the user, but I'm having a rough time trying to identify the offending edits: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/kane123/edits Has Google released any statement beyond the one that said "We were mortified to learn that a team of people..."? I'm overly curious on the results from Google's investigation. I can see the connection with Mocality being mentioned, but vandalizing seems odd. I would venture that this…
If these are the same as the Mocality people, I wonder how long before Google audits and fires them? I also wonder if we'll find out about any more wrongdoing. Hopefully Google shuts them down soon.
I'm really suspicious of any claim that the top brass at Google honestly knew nothing about it... (What would these employees even have to gain? It's not like they have much to gain if Google's stock goes up, and if they're hiding this from management, they're not getting paid for it.)
Re: Google IP Vandalizing OpenStreetMap [Not a comprehensive post]
#8I can understand Mocality posting on a blog their findings, but this is an awful and not very credible way of make public your accusations. Look forward to an explaination?... then contact them directly instead of "sand bagging" them (borrowing a colloquialism from Family Guy).
I disagree: Actually the best way to get answers from a too-big-to-communicate company like Google is to make the whole process as transparent and out in the open as possible.
Google is notoriously difficult to contact for most people. One of the best ways to get them to respond is to let as many people as possible know about the issue at hand.
Public backlash -> answers.
Re: Google IP Vandalizing OpenStreetMap [Not a comprehensive post]
#9I can understand Mocality posting on a blog their findings, but this is an awful and not very credible way of make public your accusations. Look forward to an explaination?... then contact them directly instead of "sand bagging" them (borrowing a colloquialism from Family Guy).
> awful and not very credible way of make public your accusations
what would be a more credible way?
Re: Google IP Vandalizing OpenStreetMap [Not a comprehensive post]
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If these are the same as the Mocality people, I wonder how long before Google audits and fires them? I also wonder if we'll find out about any more wrongdoing. Hopefully Google shuts them down soon.
I'm really suspicious of any claim that the top brass at Google honestly knew nothing about it... (What would these employees even have to gain? It's not like they have much to gain if Google's stock goes up, and if they're hiding this from management, they're not getting paid for it.)
Define "top brass". If you're saying some upper-middle management at Google India, possibly. If you're saying that this is being done at the VP level, I think that's a bit tin-hatty for what we've seen so far.
Regardless of whether or not you think Google is strategically sabotaging other projects, I think we can all agree that if it were under the direction of Google's top brass, they would have been smart enough not to use their own IPs. It's not an organization to which one would attribute less technological accumen than your average Wikipedia vandal.