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Tipping Is Spreading and It Sucks

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Re: Tipping Is Spreading and It Sucks

#21

I only tip bartenders, delivery people, and waiters at actual sit-down restaurants after the check arrives. Everyone else gets 0. I don't think I've ever had any friction about this. Sounds like social anxiety.

I don’t see what the problem is. It’s not mandatory, you can literally just tip 0 for everything.

Re: Tipping Is Spreading and It Sucks

#22
post #9

I was happy to tip, even for counter service, during the pandemic. I think it sucks that people were out literally risking their lives to give me a cup of coffee and a sandwich. "Essential" personnel have long been underpaid. The pandemic made that more obvious. I would rather that they get a decent salary, and set prices accordingly, but I can at least show my gratitude for the genuine risk they're taking. Now that…

If the average person starts tipping less or nothing, the workers will all go to the businesses with higher base prices and wages. It won’t matter if the other store has lower printed prices because they won’t have anyone working the business.

Re: Tipping Is Spreading and It Sucks

#23
The latest trick I've started seeing in the UK is tacking an extra "12.5% optional service charge" item on your bill.

"optional" as in, you have the right to "opt out" by embarassing yourself in public for not wantinf to pay your stated bill.

12.5% is NOT a small amount, especially when you've already paid ridiculous amounts for things that would have been far cheaper (or free) otherwise, like water!

UK wasn't even a tipping culture until very recently (at least not in the "below minimum wage" sense the US is).

Re: Tipping Is Spreading and It Sucks

#24
post #9

I was happy to tip, even for counter service, during the pandemic. I think it sucks that people were out literally risking their lives to give me a cup of coffee and a sandwich. "Essential" personnel have long been underpaid. The pandemic made that more obvious. I would rather that they get a decent salary, and set prices accordingly, but I can at least show my gratitude for the genuine risk they're taking. Now that…

> I was happy to tip, even for counter service, during the pandemic. I think it sucks that people were out literally risking their lives to give me a cup of coffee and a sandwich. And you were out, also, literally risking your life to pay for it. That argument goes both ways so shouldn't be seen as the sole/primary reason to tip.

Yes but the server came into contact with 500 people that day, for minimum wage. We came into contact with just one, got a cup of coffee out of it and then went to WFH on tech money.

Re: Tipping Is Spreading and It Sucks

#25

I simply do not return to a restaurant where the server holds the POS screen in front of you at the table for all to see. Usually the tip is pre-selected for something like 25%. Clicking "custom" and choosing a different amount is intended to make you feel embarrassed. Another place is counter service. They want a tip right after you order and are paying. Haven't even tried the food. No idea how the service is going…

Can you type in a negative amount? :D

Re: Tipping Is Spreading and It Sucks

#27
Tipping is a way for cheap employers to skimp on the pay. It's a horrible practice and it needs to die.

You were happy with the food and have the service a tip? What about the cooks and the other people involved making sure you got an enjoyable experience? They don't get anything. The pretty girl? She gets triple the tips the older guy gets, despite being equally friendly and humorous and polite.

Just pay those people a decent salary already.

Re: Tipping Is Spreading and It Sucks

#28

When I visited the US I was surprised at the ubiquitous tiping culture. Here in Australia we don't even need to tip in restaurants. You order your food, you pay the price, and you go home. Servers are nice because that's part of their job and they are being paid to do that.

That's how it should be.

There's no reason the server's service should not be covered by a reasonable salary that doesn't depend on tips.

Re: Tipping Is Spreading and It Sucks

#30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I was happy to tip, even for counter service, during the pandemic. I think it sucks that people were out literally risking their lives to give me a cup of coffee and a sandwich. And you were out, also, literally risking your life to pay for it. That argument goes both ways so shouldn't be seen as the sole/primary reason to tip.

Yes but the server came into contact with 500 people that day, for minimum wage. We came into contact with just one, got a cup of coffee out of it and then went to WFH on tech money.

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