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David Guetta uses ChatGPT and uberduck.ai to deepfake Eminem rap for DJ set

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Re: David Guetta uses ChatGPT and uberduck.ai to deepfake Eminem rap for DJ set

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Post by thatswrong0 »

Miraste wrote: post #27
thatswrong0 wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean.. there’s a reason that others haven’t really done this as far as I know and that he only used a tiny sample for a couple seconds: the output from AI voice generation generally has a ton of artifacts and isn’t something you’d want to play on a festival sized sound system for more than a few seconds. So he basically did the only acceptable thing I’d consider doing with this and.. it’s just not that interesting?

I don't think this is true any more. At least, I've heard generated audio from the latest models that runs for well over a minute without obvious artifacts.

I don’t know what else I expected to hear since progress in these spaces is moving crazy quickly. What models?

Re: David Guetta uses ChatGPT and uberduck.ai to deepfake Eminem rap for DJ set

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Post by williamcotton »

__alexs wrote: post #32
TheFragenTaken wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Guetta is not saying it's the real deal. The creativity, is his usage of the tools available. He could have hired an impersonator, it's the same thing (in my opinion).

Using impersonators has its own issues. e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midler_v._Ford_Motor_Co .

But that’s in a commercial setting, this is during a musical performance. The audience was not tricked into showing up to an Eminem performance and were not tricked into thinking that Eminem was on stage at any point. This is protected speech.

Re: David Guetta uses ChatGPT and uberduck.ai to deepfake Eminem rap for DJ set

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Post by justinclift »

_old_dude_ wrote: post #31
nextstep wrote: post #5

Anyone got a link to a longer clip of the actual audio?

He played it last month at Santiago de Chile.

Skimming through the available Youtube videos for that, it's not showing up. :/

Re: David Guetta uses ChatGPT and uberduck.ai to deepfake Eminem rap for DJ set

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Post by williamcotton »

tsimionescu wrote: post #37
flangola7 wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What song did Eminem write that he would be owed loyalties for?

His entire discography, the thing that ChatGPT's impersonation of him is based on.

This is a tired cliche.

Does Supabase owe him royalties when they use that same model that trained on Eminem’s lyrics to make a chat bot that can interact with their support documentation?

https://supabase.com/blog/chatgpt-supabase-docs

Re: David Guetta uses ChatGPT and uberduck.ai to deepfake Eminem rap for DJ set

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Post by dao- »

knaik94 wrote: post #34
tlarkworthy wrote: post #10

The music industry will not like this, seems like a short circuit around royalties and the value of a music deal with an artist.

This isn't going to be released commercially, as a very successful artist, he knows that better than most. No record label would release songs without clearing things with the relevant artist. Many artists and DJs don't release live sets/remixes because it would be impossible to clear all the samples, I don't see why this would be any different.

David Guetta makes tons of money just performing live, so "not going to be release commercially" feels like a cop-out... But then again, that's sort of how DJing works anyway. Would he have had to pay some sort of royalties had he just remixed one of Eminem's actual works on stage?

Re: David Guetta uses ChatGPT and uberduck.ai to deepfake Eminem rap for DJ set

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Post by Quarrelsome »

williamcotton wrote: post #45
tsimionescu wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

His entire discography, the thing that ChatGPT's impersonation of him is based on.

This is a tired cliche. Does Supabase owe him royalties when they use that same model that trained on Eminem’s lyrics to make a chat bot that can interact with their support documentation? https://supabase.com/blog/chatgpt-supabase-docs

Chat bots are not in competition with Eminem in his industry. Whereas other music artists are.

Its entirely fair game for subjects in a given field to protest when an AI is trained on their work and then is used to power competition to them without any form of remuneration or licensing to compensate them.

Re: David Guetta uses ChatGPT and uberduck.ai to deepfake Eminem rap for DJ set

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Post by cj »

williamcotton wrote: post #42
__alexs wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Using impersonators has its own issues. e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midler_v._Ford_Motor_Co .

But that’s in a commercial setting, this is during a musical performance. The audience was not tricked into showing up to an Eminem performance and were not tricked into thinking that Eminem was on stage at any point. This is protected speech.

> This is protected speech

According to a quick google search, even cover bands performing live are required to pay royalties to the original artists whose songs they're performing.

Maybe there's some loophole when using an artist's likeness while changing the actual music and lyrics, I don't know.

But "protected speech" isn't meant to be a way to make money off of other people's work.

Curious what part of "Midler v. Ford Motor Co" you think wouldn't apply to a musical performance.

Re: David Guetta uses ChatGPT and uberduck.ai to deepfake Eminem rap for DJ set

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Post by AndyPa32 »

Maybe I am late to recognize that, but with recent developments I get the feeling that AI and machine learning are really getting somewhere now. If it goes forward with the current trajectory, then this could change the world just like radio, television or the internet did.

Re: David Guetta uses ChatGPT and uberduck.ai to deepfake Eminem rap for DJ set

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Post by tsimionescu »

williamcotton wrote: post #45
tsimionescu wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

His entire discography, the thing that ChatGPT's impersonation of him is based on.

This is a tired cliche. Does Supabase owe him royalties when they use that same model that trained on Eminem’s lyrics to make a chat bot that can interact with their support documentation? https://supabase.com/blog/chatgpt-supabase-docs

Possibly yes, though it's more likely that OpenAI owes royalties on the revenue they get from ChatGPT.

We have yet to see this play out in court, but we likely will in the following years.

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