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Re: Ask HN: Laid off folks, are you getting hired?

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That doesn't sound tough.

Agreed. "Tough" was finding a tech job after '00 dot-com bust or the '08-09 financial crisis.

‘09 sucked. I had to go from a decently paid jr dev to doing crap few months contracts for tiny (but demanding) local companies for over a year until I found a good company to escape to

Re: Ask HN: Laid off folks, are you getting hired?

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I was a senior dev at a big tech and got laid off in November. I have applied to hundreds of places. Not a lot of responses. I have been doing interview preps the whole time. It has been very demoralizing and I am thinking of switching careers to something else. I have been considering skilled trades. I like carpentry in particular.

Every programmer eventually becomes a woodworker, whether they like it or not.

Funny story - a good friend who was doing high-end cabinetry lost a finger to a table saw, so he boned up on his coding skills and got a great job in the film FX business.

Re: Ask HN: Laid off folks, are you getting hired?

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It’s wild that this isn’t the top response. I get a ton of emails from random startups in stealth mode, early funding, whatever. You know where they all go? Spam folder. As far as I’m concerned, they pay the equivalent of dog shit and are mostly full of extremely entitled founders. They rarely offer equity that’s even remotely worth the risk. I’m way better off joining a company at Series B/C. I can often get a very…

It depends a lot on the company. Pre-funding/pre-pmf is hard to judge. But there are plenty of companies with arguable PMF at the seed stage, for whom raising an A vs going alone is an actual choice. If you're filtering for B/C, you're filtering for companies that need investor money post-supposed-PMF (A is generally considered the anointing of PMF). That behavior was fine pre-2021, but it's a bit more suspect in 202…

The issue with ones that are "profitable" at seed or Series A and don't pursue more funding is that I don't think they ever go public. The founders will find a way to get their payday but as an employee - you're SOL.

Re: Ask HN: Laid off folks, are you getting hired?

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I mean.. that sounds like a legitimate reason to not extend you an offer. But it's good that you know this about yourself and can hopefully formulate an actionable path to improvement!

I'm just going to coast/struggle at my current job.

I've found knowing your limits and avoiding getting over your head is a very valuable skill to have. Cause if you've worked with someone like that you'll see how bad not having that is.

Tip: There is always someone better at X than you are.

Re: Ask HN: Laid off folks, are you getting hired?

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I was a senior dev at a big tech and got laid off in November. I have applied to hundreds of places. Not a lot of responses. I have been doing interview preps the whole time. It has been very demoralizing and I am thinking of switching careers to something else. I have been considering skilled trades. I like carpentry in particular.

I've been doing this stuff for decades. It has become an unbearable career. It's too late for me in life to change it as there are other circumstances that have made certain paths impossible for me to do. I'm screwed. Meanwhile, the uppers keep getting paid more and more while I get tossed. I honestly believe this is my final year on this planet.

I hope tomorrow is better for you!

Re: Ask HN: Laid off folks, are you getting hired?

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I feel like such a loser with so many people having competing offers. I've never had competing offers. Like people getting to choose their own destiny and I'm just taking whatever shit I'm lucky enough to get.

I never had competing offers either. Always too lazy to interview for more than one a time. I just always happened to only interview for companies that I'd actually want to work for, and eventually I'd get one, so it generally worked out. Probably missed out on some income over the years though.

Re: Ask HN: Laid off folks, are you getting hired?

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Senior SWE, 20+ years of experience, based in the bay area, laid off from Meta in November. I reached out to my network and had a couple applications in same-day. One of those panned out and I just started this week. I also did a bunch of cold job applications, but didn't get a callback from any of them. The whole process led to a ton of anxiety and was really nerve-wracking, especially reading about layoffs from oth…

Man, there's definitely something broken with the cold application process. I'd estimate my success rate of getting an interview from a cold application is something like 1-5%. I almost always resort to referrals or getting lucky networking with recruiters.

It really shows that recruiters do next to nothing. It was a cushy job that was easy in the tech boom when everyone was being hired for anything. Now that more filtering needs to happen, the process breaks down.

As it stands today, a "warm" candidate is brought into the system by someone else. Recruiters just give them information, match them with the processors (interviewers), and tell the candidate results. MAYBE, some advocacy. MAYBE.

Then they ignore "cold" candidates.

Recruiters are really the bottleneck here, imo.

Re: Ask HN: Laid off folks, are you getting hired?

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Wow, that's really above the top tier in Berlin for SW developers. Are there companies paying for ICs in that range?

Keep in mind that's for team lead (which is "50% IC" I guess). But it's not exactly hard to see around 110k-120k for senior freelancing/consulting positions when you have good experience and great contacts. Also I see some Principal/Staff that make around this, this but those positions are sort of "tailor made" for certain individuals and are often "internal" and hard to apply for. EDIT: Also the market moved quite a…

You've got an interesting story and a great outlook. Would you be up for a coffee? I would love to chat and share notes with you. I'm also based in Berlin.

Re: Ask HN: Laid off folks, are you getting hired?

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post #165

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Happy for you. Unfortunately, with VC money currently drying off, I know of many startups that are laying off. And I'm not talking about 10% of workforce layoffs, but more around 30%.

Yep, you should definitely be wary about joining a startup in a drying industry, like B2B. Ask yourself if the customers/clients of said startup are still able to afford spending money on the product. If the customers themselves are another tech company that is struggling due to their VC money going away, probably not the best choice.

Why is B2B dying now, as opposed to previous tech recessions?
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