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Wikipedia to Shut Down on Wednesday to Protest SOPA

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Re: Wikipedia to Shut Down on Wednesday to Protest SOPA

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Wikipedia's sysadmins should make sure their blackout pages return an HTTP 503 (Service Unavailable) response so that they don't accidentally poison the search engine indexes, which risks causing SERP problems well beyond the protest period.

There's a saying that goes, "If you owe the bank $100, that's your problem. If you owe the bank $100 million, that's the bank's problem." In this case, that would be pretty much Google's problem.

Re: Wikipedia to Shut Down on Wednesday to Protest SOPA

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The only thing that might help is a constitutional amendment. A law can easily be overwritten. An amendment at least gets some oversight from the Supreme Court.

There has been some discussion about this already. I am 100% behind going on the offense for internet freedom: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3463847 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3464227

Also http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3464814

Re: Wikipedia to Shut Down on Wednesday to Protest SOPA

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post #35

I know there's a lot of cynicism about whether SOPA law is really being abandoned, or whether it's just being temporarily shelved, but I'm really excited about how opponents have banded together, and how organizations like Reddit and Wikipedia have been willing to sacrifice page views and revenue to show their support and to increase public awareness. In the future, when someone advocates opposing an unjust law and s…

The politicians will claim it is dead, then name it something else or not name it anything at all and just tack it onto the end of some other legislation and pass it when no one is watching. In the USA, they're bought and paid for.

PIPA is the thing to stop now.

Re: Wikipedia to Shut Down on Wednesday to Protest SOPA

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So, what happens when I call my Congressman after learning about this on wikipedia and his office says "oh SOPA, that bill has been put on hold already since last week"? Won't many people get pissed at wikipedia? Edit: I actually think they should call it off at the last moment . Save the nuclear option for another time.

Former WMF counsel Mike Godwin (and former DC lawyer) just commented on the Foundation mailing list:

    Dan, you're misreading the implications of what the story you link to
    says. What's actually happening is that the House sponsors hope to
    defuse opposition by delaying and slightly modifying SOPA. My
    experience as a DC lawyer for much of my career strongly suggests that
    there's no reason to suspend expressions of opposition to SOPA or PIPA
    or the general effort by content companies to change the internet as
    we know it. In my view, it is wholly incorrect to say "that time is
    not right now."  Anything that the legislators can interpret as a lack
    of resolve from the internet communities will encourage them to
    resubmit SOPA or its equivalent in another form. The time for
    protesting this is, in fact, right now.

Re: Wikipedia to Shut Down on Wednesday to Protest SOPA

#145

Wikipedia's sysadmins should make sure their blackout pages return an HTTP 503 (Service Unavailable) response so that they don't accidentally poison the search engine indexes, which risks causing SERP problems well beyond the protest period.

It's just going to be an overrideable div. You could adblock it right now if you wanted, the div ID was already announced somewhere or other.

Re: Wikipedia to Shut Down on Wednesday to Protest SOPA

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"only foreign websites which would be prosecuted under US law would possibly be affected by this" "not a big deal." Says you. That is a pretty big fucking deal. EDIT: I've read your submission. Your argument seems to be "ICE already does this, so we might as well let SOPA legitimize it" . I hope you can see why most sensible people would find this logic dissatisfying.

Wait, so if a website is located in another country and would be criminally prosecuted had they been running in the USA, then case closed, they should be able to do as they please with the hollywood blockbusters produced in the US? For example they can set up a website which is dedicated to allowing everyone, including US citizens to download movies and songs for free as much as they want? If you say yes, then you ar…

I guess "jurisdiction" is a new concept to you. The answer to all of your questions should be obvious otherwise.

The US is not World Police. Get over it.

Re: Wikipedia to Shut Down on Wednesday to Protest SOPA

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I can not imagine anyway in which Ron Paul could ever "represent" me.

I don't think he represents me, but I think he'd actually represent the values of the people who vote for him, which I think is more than I can say about any other candidates.

No he wouldn't. He would represent his own values which differ greatly from the vast majority of citizens.

And he would run into the exact same reality as Obama.

Re: Wikipedia to Shut Down on Wednesday to Protest SOPA

#149

The train has been stopped, but it's still on track. Time to push it into the other direction and maybe even let it derail spectaculously. But there is more needed than raising awareness with this blackout. This awareness should be exploited (in a good way) appropriately. - We as those that do understand the issue have the responsibility to explain the problem to the majority. I still find it very difficult to effect…

Many of us have n*100 Facebook friends who may suddenly open up their ears to this issue come Wednesday when Wikipedia goes dark.

For those of us who understand but may not be exceedingly eloquent, what are some examples of a graphic explanation bringing to light the horror of the issue that would also be short enough to fit into a Facebook status update?

Re: Wikipedia to Shut Down on Wednesday to Protest SOPA

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What blhack said. Instead, get the torrent: http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/6430796/English_Wikipedia_(A...

This perfectly legal torrent link blocked in Ireland, btw.

Here you go: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/315/torrents/wikipedia.zip
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