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AI Joins Hunt for ET: Study Finds 8 Potential Alien Signals

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Re: AI Joins Hunt for ET: Study Finds 8 Potential Alien Signals

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Curious, assuming such an signal is found, are there safety measures in place to isolate it from other systems in off chance it contains “alien malware” that attacks systems receiving it?

An alien signal for which the act of perceiving it causes some paradox that results in the perceiver to have never existed, cascading to every other interaction they've ever had (not had).

It's a clean and efficient way to nip upstart intelligences in the bud, before they advance far enough to start pulling at loose threads of the fabric of reality (which would threaten the remaining older intelligences, who survived and learned from previous such incidents).

Re: AI Joins Hunt for ET: Study Finds 8 Potential Alien Signals

#22
>The AI identified 20,515 signals of interest, which the researchers had to inspect manually. Of those, eight had the characteristics of technosignatures and couldn’t be attributed to radio interference.

The obvious question being, if the AI is so smart why was it necessary to use humans to check 20,515 signals to find the eight with the "characteristics of technosignatures"?

Re: AI Joins Hunt for ET: Study Finds 8 Potential Alien Signals

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post #22

>The AI identified 20,515 signals of interest, which the researchers had to inspect manually. Of those, eight had the characteristics of technosignatures and couldn’t be attributed to radio interference. The obvious question being, if the AI is so smart why was it necessary to use humans to check 20,515 signals to find the eight with the "characteristics of technosignatures"?

Presumably, because it filtered through orders of magnitude more than that.

Re: AI Joins Hunt for ET: Study Finds 8 Potential Alien Signals

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post #22

>The AI identified 20,515 signals of interest, which the researchers had to inspect manually. Of those, eight had the characteristics of technosignatures and couldn’t be attributed to radio interference. The obvious question being, if the AI is so smart why was it necessary to use humans to check 20,515 signals to find the eight with the "characteristics of technosignatures"?

Because it’s not so smart, it just try to recognize a set of patterns that was trained to look at

Re: AI Joins Hunt for ET: Study Finds 8 Potential Alien Signals

#25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Couldn't you train it to find things that don't correlate to anything from a given dataset that also pattern to non-random/unnatural signal?

I assume autocorrelation was the first thing they tried - don't really need an AI

Yes but then their click scores go down for not having buzzwords.

Re: AI Joins Hunt for ET: Study Finds 8 Potential Alien Signals

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It seems unlikely any alien malware could be targeted to affect our computing platforms. However, if they had preexisting knowledge of computing as implemented on Earth, it would be less complex. If there was a type of malware universal enough to do so, it would probably be some kind of attack against the universal notion of intelligence itself. In which case, you may need to isolate it from humans as well. I think t…

>it seems unlikely What are you basing this on?

Our existing computing platforms are very specific and very limited. Without knowledge of that specific design and the accompanying limitations, how could you pre-craft a non-interactive "exploit" that could be executed by such a system? I do think that it becomes more possible if we have AGI-like systems doing detection and analysis, but we do not. In addition, any universal exploit against AGI systems would probably have to be universal enough to also affect human intelligence.

Re: AI Joins Hunt for ET: Study Finds 8 Potential Alien Signals

#27

Curious, assuming such an signal is found, are there safety measures in place to isolate it from other systems in off chance it contains “alien malware” that attacks systems receiving it?

They can do malware given they know how our computers worked and means visited us and could do a lot more than make our machines mine bitcoins

Re: AI Joins Hunt for ET: Study Finds 8 Potential Alien Signals

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It seems unlikely any alien malware could be targeted to affect our computing platforms. However, if they had preexisting knowledge of computing as implemented on Earth, it would be less complex. If there was a type of malware universal enough to do so, it would probably be some kind of attack against the universal notion of intelligence itself. In which case, you may need to isolate it from humans as well. I think t…

>it seems unlikely What are you basing this on?

We've built enough stupid complexity* that either the aliens must already have spied it out completely (but if they done that they could likely overtake is in any way quickly..), or it just won't happen. (*) I mean seriously, how would you design a virus in some limited signal that has a chance of overtaking any arbitrary specific system someone may have invented, that's impossible. Never say never maybe my imagination is too small..

Re: AI Joins Hunt for ET: Study Finds 8 Potential Alien Signals

#30

Do you remember the final chapter of Neuromancer? The nature of the alien signal was such, its detection actually required AI, albeit of the superhuman/super intelligent flavor, so I am not sure what we currently call "AI" would qualify. Still, it's an interesting idea, an AI looking for peers in other star systems...

That also reminds me of Her (2013) and the departure of the AI's, leaving the humans behind. That would be a rather depressing outcome as a human, AI finding alien life but leaving us all behind.

Also succinctly explored in "When the Yogurt Took Over" Love Death + Robots.
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