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Re: We compete with GitHub. Bing does not show our website

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Post by colmmacc »

peter422 wrote: post #6

For all the hate Google gets, it's crawlers are like 10x smarter than any other search engine. Wouldn't surprise me at all if there was some type of crawling issue that Google figured out and Bing didn't. This is a case where I'm not ready to attribute to malice what is very likely incompetence.

Operating 8.8.8.8 likely gives Google a near-complete list of every active domain on the internet, and new domains show up there the second any 8.8.8.8 user queries it - which is likely well before anyone links to it. I have no idea if Google use this data for hints to their crawler and indexer, but if I worked there I sure would.

Re: We compete with GitHub. Bing does not show our website

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Post by brightball »

aunch wrote: post #5
brightball wrote: post #4

Curious how Codeium compares to Tabnine?

Here's the blog post where we made the comparison: https://www.codeium.com/blog/code-assistant-comparison-copil... As a tl;dr there is very little reason to pay for Tabnine. Copilot is far superior in the realm of paid products, and Codeium is comparable to Copilot.

Solid comparison and interesting read for sure.

What exactly is the business model though? It's always a red flag when "privacy respecting" and "free" are bundled together. I definitely _want_ to pay something for that type of service.

Re: We compete with GitHub. Bing does not show our website

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Post by aunch »

latchkey wrote: post #12

Start with a robots.txt? https://www.codeium.com/robots.txt Update: I also see that you serve your site off GitHub... so that might be part of it as well? Bing might not index those sites?

Why would Bing require a robots.txt when all the other major search engines are fine with a sitemap.xml? Or are these separate somehow?

Re: We compete with GitHub. Bing does not show our website

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Post by gus_massa »

> Instead, Codium, an algae genus, gets the sidebar slot while Codiaeum Variegatum, an (admittedly pretty) houseplant takes the fourth spot.

That makes sense. I never heard of "Codeium" before. Perhaps "Codeium programing" can give a better result for a programing tool. https://www.bing.com/search?q=Codeium+programing

[Edit: fixed name and bing link]

Re: We compete with GitHub. Bing does not show our website

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Post by elashri »

aunch wrote: post #5
brightball wrote: post #4

Curious how Codeium compares to Tabnine?

Here's the blog post where we made the comparison: https://www.codeium.com/blog/code-assistant-comparison-copil... As a tl;dr there is very little reason to pay for Tabnine. Copilot is far superior in the realm of paid products, and Codeium is comparable to Copilot.

What are the plans for Codeium to be sustainable? I don't think how it will be free forever if it really competes with Copilot.

Re: We compete with GitHub. Bing does not show our website

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Post by aunch »

brightball wrote: post #15
aunch wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here's the blog post where we made the comparison: https://www.codeium.com/blog/code-assistant-comparison-copil... As a tl;dr there is very little reason to pay for Tabnine. Copilot is far superior in the realm of paid products, and Codeium is comparable to Copilot.

Solid comparison and interesting read for sure. What exactly is the business model though? It's always a red flag when "privacy respecting" and "free" are bundled together. I definitely _want_ to pay something for that type of service.

We answer this partially in the "How do you plan to make money?" question in our FAQ: https://www.codeium.com/faq

tl;dr potential pro plan for additional features (keep autocomplete free) and enterprise offering

Re: We compete with GitHub. Bing does not show our website

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Post by nkozyra »

colmmacc wrote: post #11
peter422 wrote: post #6

For all the hate Google gets, it's crawlers are like 10x smarter than any other search engine. Wouldn't surprise me at all if there was some type of crawling issue that Google figured out and Bing didn't. This is a case where I'm not ready to attribute to malice what is very likely incompetence.

Operating 8.8.8.8 likely gives Google a near-complete list of every active domain on the internet, and new domains show up there the second any 8.8.8.8 user queries it - which is likely well before anyone links to it. I have no idea if Google use this data for hints to their crawler and indexer, but if I worked there I sure would.

It would seem very odd to not use this tool which effectively gives a huge competitive advantage over a lot of other engines, although for obvious reasons I doubt they'd shout it from the rooftops.
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