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Re: GitHub to lay off 10% and close all offices

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wild how so many companies are laying off 7-15% of their workforce in such quick succession

4 out of the last 5 market bottoms occurred about 1 month after "tech layoff" search frequency peaked.

And there is no way the Fed can reduce rates to bail out this next crash. Hang on people...

Re: GitHub to lay off 10% and close all offices

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They’re keeping Slack. Zoom is going away.

Why don’t they use Huddle then?

huddle as a lot of limitations. it's good for random adhoc chats but not good for more formal scheduled meeting. for larger companies, using something zoom-like and huddle makes sense.

Re: GitHub to lay off 10% and close all offices

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The worst part of this is that everyone at GitHub is now forced to use Microsoft Teams.

Worse than losing your job?

For sure. As somebody said already, at least if you're fired you'll get severance. I'd get nothing when I quit though.

Have you _used_ MS Teams? I'm not exactly a fan of Slack, but it's like telepathy by comparison.

Re: GitHub to lay off 10% and close all offices

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>i) Effective immediately, we will be moving laptop refreshes from three years to four years. ii) We will be moving to Microsoft Teams for the sole purpose of video conferencing, saving significant cost and simplifying cross-company and customer conversations Layoffs and having to use teams? Talk about a morale hit

But what's wrong with Teams? It works well enough for me in Firefox on Linux. But OK, I only joined customer-initiated meetings, and was never presenting, only watching and talking, so maybe never used some important but non-working feature.

For me it's that notifications are so inconsistent that I can never rely on them. Sometimes I get them, but sometimes I don't even if I'm actively using my PC. On Windows the performance is ok, but it absolutely ruins my MacBook's battery even when using the ARM native version.

Another thing is that I have to use Intune to use Teams on my phone. Now, I know that's a choice the IT department made, and my employer is to blame here. But at least Zoom and Slack don't even give them the option to mandate bundling literal spyware.

I also dislike the concept of having teams and chats in separate places, with the two having a completely different flow of usage.

Re: GitHub to lay off 10% and close all offices

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when will these layoffs reflect in boom town housing markets ?

Even if we assumed they are all moving away (they aren't, plenty of hiring still) it would take some time.

> plenty of hiring still

Doesn't sound like it from responses the other ASK HN post. But you are right, i get a sense that it might take years before the havoc they've created will unravel.

Re: GitHub to lay off 10% and close all offices

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I thought it was GitLab which was remote-first (or should we say remote-only?). GitHub still seems to have offices and people going into them.

Yeah I don't think github was remote-first when it started.

Definitely was- we didn’t have an office for the first few years. Picked up the first office in 2010, and it was a big component of work life since then (even though the numbers were primarily ⅔ remote throughout).

Re: GitHub to lay off 10% and close all offices

#97

This really is the techpocalypse, huh? I’m young (35) but I’ve never seen layoffs so continuous. I wonder how far into the year this will go and if we’ll ever come back. Maybe companies truly will start offshoring.

US unemployment is the lowest since the Moon landing in 1969.

We are not looking at some tech decimation. The companies were spending like drunken socialist sailors during the pandemic because the oracles in upper management saw us all staying home forever. And now they are snapping back to the sizes they actually were.

Re: GitHub to lay off 10% and close all offices

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How is this the worst part lmao?

You've clearly never used Teams. But in all seriousness Teams is fine for chat and video.

I used it for two years next to WebEx and it is the worst of all. Not only UX is the worst (cannot have a normal channel, everything is a thread, you cannot change alignment of messages) also the rate of people complaining their Teams does not work was staggering.

Re: GitHub to lay off 10% and close all offices

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The worst part of this is that everyone at GitHub is now forced to use Microsoft Teams.

this is terrifying. for all the grief people give Slack, I've used both and I would seriously consider leaving a company that expected me to use Teams long term.

We use Teams long term and would give quite a bit to be able to use Slack. At least it's a great tool to focus our negative energies on, lol.
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