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Ask HN: Is anyone else getting AI fatigue?

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Re: Ask HN: Is anyone else getting AI fatigue?

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The "I" in AI is just complete bullshit and I can't understand why so many people are in a awe of a bit of software that chains words to another based on some statistical model. The sad truth is that ChatGPT is about as good an AI as ELIZA was in 1966, it's just better (granted: much better) at hiding its total lack of actual human understanding. It's nothing more than an expensive parlor trick, IMHO. Github CoPilot?…

As much as I’m sick of AI products, I’m even more sick of the “ChatGPT is bullshit” argument.

The biggest thing I’ve learned from chatGPT is that real people struggle with the difference between intelligence, understanding, and consciousness / sentience.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone else getting AI fatigue?

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I really don't understand how engineers are having good experiences with it; a lot of the stuff I've seen it output w.r.t. swe is only correct if you're very generous with your interpretation of it (re: dangerous if you use it as anything more than a casual glance at the tech). W.r.t. anything else it outputs, it's either so generic that I could do it better, outright wrong (e.g. cannot handle something as simple as…

I'm a Civil Engineer with a modest background including some work in AI. I'm pretty impressed with it. It's about as good or better than an average new intern and it's nearly instant. I think a big part of my success with it is that I'm used to providing good specifications for tasks. This is, apparently, non-trivial for people to the point where it drives the existence of many middle-management or high-level enginee…

I can't speak to the rest of what you wrote because I couldn't be further from the field of civil engineering but if you feel impressed with it on chess, ask it to play game of tic tac toe; for me it didn't seem to understand the very simple rules or even keep track of my position on the grid.

There are so few permutations in tac tac toe that it's lack of memory and lack of ability to understand extremely simple rules make it difficult for me to have confidence in anything it says. I mean, I barely had confidence left before I ran that "experiment" but that was the final nail in the coffin for me.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone else getting AI fatigue?

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The "I" in AI is just complete bullshit and I can't understand why so many people are in a awe of a bit of software that chains words to another based on some statistical model. The sad truth is that ChatGPT is about as good an AI as ELIZA was in 1966, it's just better (granted: much better) at hiding its total lack of actual human understanding. It's nothing more than an expensive parlor trick, IMHO. Github CoPilot?…

The "I" in AI is just complete bullshit

We're about six minutes away from "AI bros" becoming a thing.

The same kind of grifters who always latch onto the latest thing and hype it up in order to make a quick buck are already knocking on AI's door.

See also: Cryptocurrency, and Beanie Babies.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone else getting AI fatigue?

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The only problem with the “ChatGPT is bullshit” argument is that it is only half true. ChatGPT, when provided with a synthetic prompt is reliably a synthesizer, or to use the loaded term, a bullshiter. When provided with an analytic prompt, it is reliably a translator. Terms, etc: https://www.williamcotton.com/articles/chatgpt-and-the-analy...

> ChatGPT, when provided with a synthetic prompt is reliably a synthesizer, or to use the loaded term, a bullshiter. sounds like most people tbf

There are people who in many situations use as much critical though as ChatGPT does.

ChatGPT isn't as good as a human who puts in a lot of effort, but in many jobs it can easily outperform humans who don't care very much.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone else getting AI fatigue?

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The HN crowd would do well to take a step back and look at this from a little different perspective. We are able to see "AI" and machine learning as the very young and imperfect technologies that they are. That said, ChatGPT is the first time a technology like this has been even REMOTELY available to the vast majority of the public, and democratizing this capability even in the small box of a chat window is wildly disruptive. Even after explaining that it probably isn't a great idea to use it for generating 100% factually reliable content, everyone I've shown it to has come up with ways they would use it to make small-but-meaningful improvements in some area of their lives. Consider an immigrant owner of a landscaping company who isn't super confident in their English but needed to respond to a customer to clarify exactly what they need to do on a job site. Did they close the deal solely because of ChatGPT? Hard to say for sure, but it saved an hour of productive time and likely made it easier for the customer to be a reference/word-of-mouth fan.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone else getting AI fatigue?

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Not necessarily true. People talk about “fake meat” all the time but it’s clear there’s no level of fraudulence implied by this usage. It’s meant in the sense of “artificial meat”. There are multiple ways the word “fake” is used, and one is as a synonym for “artificial”. However, in this case, it does seem that there is a level of fraudulence and deception. Given that “fake” often is used exactly the way you say, may…

Fake meat is still a form of deception; it's something that's not meat pretending to be meat. If lab grown meat gets good enough to be indistinguishable from "real" meat, then it would no longer be fake, it would just be artificial.

Is “fake grass” (i.e. astroturf) a form of deception in your eyes?
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