Not really. Deep learning had continued to deliver since 2012. You can't say that about crypto. Or any other new tech.
Ask HN: Is anyone else getting AI fatigue?
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Re: Ask HN: Is anyone else getting AI fatigue?
#122There’s some very good stuff going on but no question the hype cycle is currently shifting. Crypto is dead, AI is the new crypto.
With that, all the hype-sters and shady folks rush in and it can quickly become hard to differentiate between what’s good, what’s misplaced enthusiasm, and what’s just a scam.
These scenarios are also a big case study in the Dunning-Kruger effect. I’ve already got folks that haven’t written a line of code in their life trying to “explain” to me why I’m not understanding why some random junk AI thing that’s not really AI is the next big thing. Sometimes you gotta just sit there and be like “thanks for your perspective”.
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#123I think this time is the good one. ChatGPT has reached a level where we finally can think of building actually useful products on top of "AI". Note that nobody is pretending that ChatGPT is "true" intelligence (whatever that means), but i believe the excitement comes from seeing something that could have real application (and so, yes, everybody is going to pretend to have incorporated "AI" in their product for the ne…
I really don't understand how engineers are having good experiences with it; a lot of the stuff I've seen it output w.r.t. swe is only correct if you're very generous with your interpretation of it (re: dangerous if you use it as anything more than a casual glance at the tech). W.r.t. anything else it outputs, it's either so generic that I could do it better, outright wrong (e.g. cannot handle something as simple as…
I agree. Even understanding its limitations as essentially a really good bullshit generator, I have yet to find a good use for it in my life. I've tried using it for brainstorming on creative activities and it consistently disappoints, it frequently spouts utter nonsense if asked to explain something, code it produces is questionable at best, and it is even a very boring conversation partner.
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#124There is no AI. At best it's diffusive sequence generation, and at worst it's just noise.
As an operation, it's a big mechanical turk that is sped up with huge amounts of server spend. The utility of any output is a lossy derivative of curated knowledge and IP, trained and censored by some of the poorest people on the planet.
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#125Earlier quoted context omitted.
I can say with a certain degree of confidence that you haven't actually used CoPilot daily.
I've worked with teams that used Copilot. They claim it's great "Hey, now I don't have to actually spend any time writing all this boilerplate!" while for me, the person who has to review their code before releasing stuff, easier ways of writing boilerplate is not a positive, it's a negative. If writing boilerplate becomes effortless, then you'll write more of it, instead of feeling the pain of writing it and then tr…
I use github copilot on a daily basis and it improves my time from thinking to code.
Often I have times where I'm think about a specific piece of code that I need and I have it partially in my head and github copilot "just completes" it. I press tab and that's it.
I'm not talking about writing entire functions where you have to mentally strain yourself to understand what it wrote.
But I've never seen any autocompleter do it so good then github copilot. Even for documentation purposes like JSdoc and related commenting system it's amazing.
It's a tool I pay for now since it's proven to be a tool that increases my productivity.
Is it gonna replace us? I hope not, but it does look promising as one of those tools people will talk about in the future.
Re: Ask HN: Is anyone else getting AI fatigue?
#126Earlier quoted context omitted.
As much as I’m sick of AI products, I’m even more sick of the “ChatGPT is bullshit” argument.
The only problem with the “ChatGPT is bullshit” argument is that it is only half true. ChatGPT, when provided with a synthetic prompt is reliably a synthesizer, or to use the loaded term, a bullshiter. When provided with an analytic prompt, it is reliably a translator. Terms, etc: https://www.williamcotton.com/articles/chatgpt-and-the-analy...
> ChatGPT, when provided with a synthetic prompt is reliably a synthesizer, or to use the loaded term, a bullshiter.
sounds like most people tbf
Re: Ask HN: Is anyone else getting AI fatigue?
#127If you're tired of AI now you're gonna hate where we are going. Strap in! (…or take a good step back from the news cycle, check in once or twice a week instead of several times daily. News consumption reduction is good for mental health.)
This is something any crypto-bro would have told you in 2017.
Really don't understand the constant crypto comparisons. We have one technology that hasn't provided any benefits whatsoever in 10 years and one that has provided real utility from day one. One deserves the hype, the other doesn't.
Re: Ask HN: Is anyone else getting AI fatigue?
#128There is no AI. At best it's diffusive sequence generation, and at worst it's just noise.
The analogue version was academic institutions that paid gifted people with intelligence to have research assistants that went to the library. But we defunded that model of natural intelligence because it wasn't equitable for the ungifted.
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#129It's been happening for a decade and I've learned to ignore it.
Cloud for this cloud for that! Blockchain for this blockchain for that! Big Data for this, big data for that! Web scale all the things!
The marketing driven development is exhausting and has done nothing to improve technology. This happened because of 0% interest rates and free money. People have been vying for all the VC money by creation solutions looking for problems, which end up being useless solutions for which no problems exist
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#130There is a lot of negativity towards the idea of AI in this thread, and I feel like someone has to say it: it is quite likely that in the near future computers will be better than almost all humans at almost all cognitive tasks.
If you have a task or are trying to accomplish something, and the way you do it is by moving a mouse around or typing on a keyboard then it is very likely that an AI will be able to do that task. Doing so is a more or less straightforward extension of existing techniques in AI. All that is necessary is to record you performing the task and then an AI will be able to imitate your behavior. GPT3 can already do this for text, and doing it instead with trajectories of screen, mouse and keyboard is not fundamentally different.
So yes, it is true that there is a lot of hype right now, but I suspect it is a small fraction of what we will see in the near future. I also expect there will be an enormous backlash at some point.