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Re: Ask HN: Is anyone else getting AI fatigue?

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Post by chx »

codeptualize wrote: post #24

I'm working on a project that uses GPT-3 and similar stuff, even before the hype. I think the overhype is really tiring. Just like with most of these hype cycles there is an actual useful interesting technology, but the hype beasts take it way overboard and present it as if it's the holy grail or whatever. It's not. That's tiring, and really annoying. It's incredibly cool technology, it is great at certain use cases,…

> GPT-3 it's good at generative writing

made up bullshit

> summarization

except you can't possibly know the output has any relation whatsoever to the text being summarized

> information search and extraction

except you can't possibly know the output has any relation whatsoever to the information being extracted

people still fall for this crap?

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone else getting AI fatigue?

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Post by bprasanna »

I too feel overwhelmed by this sudden rush towards *GPT. The content generated by AI is slowly erasing the line between the creative content and computer generated content. I remember last year when so many people earning or trying to earn by creating art forms to sell as NFT. Once Dall-E landed, then the originality quotient of any creative content is lost. Likewise, ChatGPT is going to erase the originality in text content. Once internet is mixed with AI generated content, then there is no going back. We can't find what's real work, what's AI generated.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone else getting AI fatigue?

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Post by a3w »

AI for actual applications, where mistakes are costly, is becoming an idiot marker. As "crypto" for projects other than non-decentralized finance or "smart" contracts, has already become. FOMO is great on this though, so every major investor/consultant is no starting to to tell you to get shitcoin.

AGI could be ML driven, most likely it is not. Neuronal nets are still AI tech. Even Bayesian inference is weakly AI tech.

The public always misuses words. Words change to match that meaning.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone else getting AI fatigue?

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Post by smohare »

dual_dingo wrote: post #32

The "I" in AI is just complete bullshit and I can't understand why so many people are in a awe of a bit of software that chains words to another based on some statistical model. The sad truth is that ChatGPT is about as good an AI as ELIZA was in 1966, it's just better (granted: much better) at hiding its total lack of actual human understanding. It's nothing more than an expensive parlor trick, IMHO. Github CoPilot?…

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Re: Ask HN: Is anyone else getting AI fatigue?

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Post by version_five »

dual_dingo wrote: post #32

The "I" in AI is just complete bullshit and I can't understand why so many people are in a awe of a bit of software that chains words to another based on some statistical model. The sad truth is that ChatGPT is about as good an AI as ELIZA was in 1966, it's just better (granted: much better) at hiding its total lack of actual human understanding. It's nothing more than an expensive parlor trick, IMHO. Github CoPilot?…

I agree with you completely. I work in the field and I think your sentiment is way more common amongst people who know about the technology, vs the fair weather fans who have all jumped on the hype bandwagon recently. I actually posted the same thing (that it's no different than Eliza) a month or so ago, and got at least one hilarious dismissal, like the "I bet you make widgets" person that replied to you.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone else getting AI fatigue?

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Post by brianmcc »

cshimmin wrote: post #57
brianmcc wrote: post #23

What winds me up is the mis-branding, sometimes deliberate sometimes not (which one is worse?!), of basic computer processing as "AI". It's not AI it's an IF statement for crying out loud :-( But this is the industry we're in, and buzzword-driven headlines and investment are how it goes. Actual proper AI getting some attention makes a pleasant change tbh :-)

I disagree; consider the use of the term "video game AI", which historically at least has just been a bunch of _if_ statements chained together. This is totally valid, it's an example of AI without machine learning. The thing is that AI is just about the most general term for the type of computing that gives the illusion of intelligence. Machine learning is a more specific region of the space of AI, and generally is…

I'm thinking of cases such as colleagues selling as "ML" something they were then forced to admit as "we use SQL to pick out instances of this specific behaviour we knew was happening". Embarrassing all round.

As folks that work in tech we can tell the difference between stuff that's got some form of depth to it in "proper" AI: ML, DL, AGI as you suggest, vs the over-hyped basic computation stuff. And the selling of the latter as the former can rankle.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone else getting AI fatigue?

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Post by Otek »

dual_dingo wrote: post #55
nunodonato wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can say with a certain degree of confidence that you haven't actually used CoPilot daily.

I haven't. Now you know for a fact :) What I have seen about it ranged from things that can be nearly just as well handled by your $EDITOR's snippet functionality to things where my argument kicked in - I have to verify this generated code does what I want, ergo I have to read and understand something not written by me. Paired with the at least somewhat legally and ethical questionable source of the training data, th…

So stop evangelizing about stuff you haven’t used. Understanding code is easier than writing it from the scratch. That’s why code review doesn’t take as much time as writing code and you still need to prove your code works, even if you wrote it yourself.
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