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Ask HN: Easiest and cheapest full-stack frameworks that you love?

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Re: Ask HN: Easiest and cheapest full-stack frameworks that you love?

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This: https://create.t3.gg/ having typesafety out of the box between backend and frontend is a game changer.. not having to do fetches manually and your api autocompleting is awesome.

Yes huge +1 to t3. Given how opinionated t3 is I wish they added (even if optional) more must haves like testing and background workers.

Re: Ask HN: Easiest and cheapest full-stack frameworks that you love?

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Wt a C++ based web development toolkit. Includes all the bells and whistles like front-end, ORM, graphics(2D/3D), audio, video, graphs/charts, tables, trees, supports browsers with no javascript, responsive, payments, authentication, notification and much more.

The development experience is similar to desktop application development.

Examples are available here: https://www.webtoolkit.eu/widgets/layout

Re: Ask HN: Easiest and cheapest full-stack frameworks that you love?

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post #10

https://www.meteor.com/ If you’re fine with MongoDB in the backend. Then you get a lot of speed in development and same language in backend and frontend. Plus view live updates on all connected clients as data changes in backend. And hot Code push to clients if new build on server available. I loved it when doing https://www.4minitz.com/ (retired FOSS)

There is also a MySQL integration with Meteor. I'm the defacto maintainer of this package and the Node.js package mysql-live-select. These implement pub/sub and reactive queries using the MySQL binary log as the event source: https://github.com/vlasky/meteor-mysql https://github.com/vlasky/mysql-live-select

Ah! Cool! Thanks for sharing. Didn't know this exists meantime...

Re: Ask HN: Easiest and cheapest full-stack frameworks that you love?

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ASP.NET 7 with c# as a programming language. The tooling is mature, it's not going to rot. I've realize a lot of framework are great in theory but getting started and staying afloat is hard.

This framework is typesafe, you can use: React, Angular, MVC, Blazor, Pages.

Everything you need.

In second position, i would pick any top 10 php framework: Laravel, Symfony, Yii.

Why, because they are simple to work with and to deploy.

One piece of advice I learned to only write code that works for now, just write

Re: Ask HN: Easiest and cheapest full-stack frameworks that you love?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This! Use one of the many admin panels that directly build on your data structure. Administrate, RailsAdmin, ... As well as devise for Auth, Postgres as scalable cheap DB, and so on. I am not sure if any other framework can make a single person or small team this productive (when it comes to CRUD like operations)

Eh, I've tried rails many times just to ask myself what makes this better than laravel? I mean laravel new app --jet (jetstream/saas features) gets me: - authentication/authorization - Including: oauth, tokens, 2fa, etc. - queues w/ choice of redis, memcache, db, etc. - cache w/ choice of redis, memcache, db, etc. - SaaS dashboard w/ teams using something like phoenix's liveview called livewire OR vue + inertia - If…

PHP obviously, I had to work with it for 11 years professionally.

Right now it's the worst scripting language on the planet.

No one in their right mind would start a new project using PHP.

Re: Ask HN: Easiest and cheapest full-stack frameworks that you love?

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If you're genuine about your goal (re-examine your own feelings, it's easy to deceive oneself!), your question is going in the wrong direction. The framework doesn't matter. If you want to release a startup quickly, just do the minimum amount of work to test the hypothesis you have about your user. Most of the time that will not involve programming. It could be as simple as setting up a Gform or calling a few friends…

Interestingly, this doesn't work on HN (and I'm glad for that). Announcements are off-topic and announcements for things that don't even exist and just want to collect emails tend to get very negative responses.

https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=concise.space

Re: Ask HN: Easiest and cheapest full-stack frameworks that you love?

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There are lots of projects that start you off with things most SaaS projects need. Eg https://bullettrain.co/

Personally I’m also loving SvelteKit. To me it perfectly bridges the front and backends. I ported most of my SaaS to it. Still new though so not a lot of community support. https://kit.svelte.dev/

Re: Ask HN: Easiest and cheapest full-stack frameworks that you love?

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post #22

Wt a C++ based web development toolkit. Includes all the bells and whistles like front-end, ORM, graphics(2D/3D), audio, video, graphs/charts, tables, trees, supports browsers with no javascript, responsive, payments, authentication, notification and much more. The development experience is similar to desktop application development. Examples are available here: https://www.webtoolkit.eu/widgets/layout

talking about C++, there are drogon framework: https://github.com/drogonframework/drogon

not bells and whistles like on Wt as there are no integrated widgets. But have c++ based template (for HTML) engine and other integrated parts what you expect from framework (routing, controllers, db, authentication handling and so on).

and boasts high performance design

Re: Ask HN: Easiest and cheapest full-stack frameworks that you love?

#30
post #5

It’s 2023 and I still think nothing beats Rails (even with all its flaws).

It’s def a solid option esp. if you’re very familiar with it already.

But, I think Elixir/Phoenix beats it handily at this point for someone starting from scratch with either one or that is willing to spend a week or two learning something new.

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