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Is Google’s 20-year search dominance about to end?

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Re: Is Google’s 20-year search dominance about to end?

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Microsoft's integration of ChatGPT with Bing is really bad. No-one wants a busy search page with a side-bar of ChatGPT; what's the point of that?

The correct interface for ChatGPT + search is just...ChatGPT. But it can also show you a list of web search results, when it's appropriate.

A super-clean interface, that always shows you exactly what you want.

That would be a killer feature and represent a real threat to Google.

Re: Is Google’s 20-year search dominance about to end?

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It's been a while since they stopped innovating. Although Google, Maps, Youtube are of daily use they are monetized exclusively by advertising which is annoying and hated by many. It has been many years since Google has launched an innovative new product. I don't think ChatGPT will gain daily traction after this hype. Anyway we could say that MSFT and AMZN have demostrated more power to innovate with different busine…

>It has been many years since Google has launched an innovative new product. Stadia launched in 2019.

Stadia wasn't really that innovative, how many times has cloud/streaming gaming been done before? I can think of at least 3.

Also, it's already dead.

Re: Is Google’s 20-year search dominance about to end?

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post #24

It's been a while since they stopped innovating. Although Google, Maps, Youtube are of daily use they are monetized exclusively by advertising which is annoying and hated by many. It has been many years since Google has launched an innovative new product. I don't think ChatGPT will gain daily traction after this hype. Anyway we could say that MSFT and AMZN have demostrated more power to innovate with different busine…

>It has been many years since Google has launched an innovative new product. Stadia launched in 2019.

I suppose successful new product? It’s already closed.

Re: Is Google’s 20-year search dominance about to end?

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Touchscreen keyboards disappear and free up their real estate. That’s the main advantage on phones.

Yep! And people just want big screens to view content.

Well what else are we supposed to do with them?

Re: Is Google’s 20-year search dominance about to end?

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I think it’s interesting to consider why touchscreen mobile phones won out over their predecessors. Touchscreens are the worst interface option. The feedback of feeling a button, or anything made for the job, is better than typing without specific feedback onto a screen. It won out because of you don’t have a set interface it’s bettor. Now for search, chat gpt will likely always be less reliable than a list of result…

>Touchscreens are worse than buttons Hottest take I've seen on here for a while. In a very specific, very limited set of mobile usecases, buttons may offer a more pleasant experience than a touchscreen. I only say that because there's usually exceptions to any statement, but I can't actually think of one. Touchscreens didn't win because of some lazy sheep-like consumerism, they won because the product is superior. If…

Let me rephrase: if you have a set interface touchscreens suck. No one would choose to use a touchscreen over a physical keyboard, or steering wheel, or mouse for an fps game.

It’s a crap interface compared to others but it’s the best to do anything. That’s why it won.

Re: Is Google’s 20-year search dominance about to end?

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post #7

I think it’s interesting to consider why touchscreen mobile phones won out over their predecessors. Touchscreens are the worst interface option. The feedback of feeling a button, or anything made for the job, is better than typing without specific feedback onto a screen. It won out because of you don’t have a set interface it’s bettor. Now for search, chat gpt will likely always be less reliable than a list of result…

Agreed, the whole “this is the new search” has perplexed me. Primarily the idea that this AI is supposed to be the single point of truth. A traditional search allows the user to review a variety of contexts and viewpoints. It’s highly concerning that this is something people seem to want (or at least, is being pushed onto them through marketing & hype), despite the huge outcry over algorithms and political agendas over the past few years…

Re: Is Google’s 20-year search dominance about to end?

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It's been a while since they stopped innovating. Although Google, Maps, Youtube are of daily use they are monetized exclusively by advertising which is annoying and hated by many. It has been many years since Google has launched an innovative new product. I don't think ChatGPT will gain daily traction after this hype. Anyway we could say that MSFT and AMZN have demostrated more power to innovate with different busine…

They didn’t exactly stop innovating: ChatGPT itself is using tremendous amounts of innovation that was done and published by Google. What they stopped is beating their competition to launching compelling products based on the innovation they do.

Re: Is Google’s 20-year search dominance about to end?

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post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>It has been many years since Google has launched an innovative new product. Stadia launched in 2019.

Stadia wasn't really that innovative, how many times has cloud/streaming gaming been done before? I can think of at least 3. Also, it's already dead.

Yeah, OnLive did it back in 2003!

Re: Is Google’s 20-year search dominance about to end?

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post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>It has been many years since Google has launched an innovative new product. Stadia launched in 2019.

Stadia wasn't really that innovative, how many times has cloud/streaming gaming been done before? I can think of at least 3. Also, it's already dead.

Which three? Did they actually work with reasonable input latency?
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