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Public broadcasters want to reclaim online spaces with “Public Spaces Incubator”

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Re: Public broadcasters want to reclaim online spaces with “Public Spaces Incubator”

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This is a big challenge, and I applaud them for taking it. There is no information about how they intend to do this, which is fair since they're just getting started.

How would you attempt this? Moderation is hard and labour-intensive. I moderated a community for a while, and I hated it. It was a lot of unrewarding work, and the reward was mostly indifference, with bouts of stalking and harassment.

I can't imagine it being any easier when inviting the average Joe to discuss politics.

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Can we stop with the term "public-owned"? These aren't publicly traded companies (that anyone from the public can buy a stake into) but state-owned and operated broadcasters.

Now, as to their objectives, I have no faith that these state media can or will be able to create spaces where the first amendment is preserved considering their poor track-record in the matter. [0]

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29783996

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>Public broadcasters* want to reclaim online spaces with “Public Spaces Incubator” * Government broadcasters

ZDF is not a government broadcaster. It's paid for by the TV tax, which is also not managed by the German government.

Re: Public broadcasters want to reclaim online spaces with “Public Spaces Incubator”

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> The new "Public Spaces Incubator" (PSI) initiative will develop and test innovative solutions that encourage accessible and meaningful online conversations on issues of public interest, free from harassment or bullying — inclusive exchanges that will reflect diverse viewpoints and promote greater empathy and understanding, without suppressing perspectives or ideas.

> "Online spaces that are free from disinformation, misinformation, harassment and abuse are near extinction."

This is a nothingburger. Some organizations parasitizing various tax bases to reach a vanishingly small set of viewers intends to investigate the possibility of potentially looking into building some crappy websites that don't meaningfully differ from any number of censored comment sections that already exist.

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Can we stop with the term "public-owned"? These aren't publicly traded companies (that anyone from the public can buy a stake into) but state-owned and operated broadcasters. Now, as to their objectives, I have no faith that these state media can or will be able to create spaces where the first amendment is preserved considering their poor track-record in the matter. [0] [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29783…

ZDF is not state-owned. It's an independent non-profit institution financed in part by the non-government TV tax.

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>Public broadcasters* want to reclaim online spaces with “Public Spaces Incubator” * Government broadcasters

ZDF is not a government broadcaster. It's paid for by the TV tax, which is also not managed by the German government.

Oh that's interesting. I just assumed. Sorry! So who collects the tax?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

ZDF is not a government broadcaster. It's paid for by the TV tax, which is also not managed by the German government.

Oh that's interesting. I just assumed. Sorry! So who collects the tax?

This is an explainer I wrote for immigrants: https://allaboutberlin.com/guides/gez-rundfunkbeitrag

If you have any questions, feel free to ask. Perhaps I need to make improvements to the text. Sometimes you've been around for so long that you forget what confuses people.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

ZDF is not a government broadcaster. It's paid for by the TV tax, which is also not managed by the German government.

Oh that's interesting. I just assumed. Sorry! So who collects the tax?

nicbou's link has details on the how, but here's a direct answer to the why:

The money is not a tax because it's not the government that collects it, and the government cannot decide how much it should be. Instead, there are institutions that have been granted powers to levy their own fees and self-govern to a large degree. Accountability is established through an oversight board that includes representatives from civic society and other independent review institutions.

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