“How America took out the Nord Stream pipeline”

Post by syzarian » Wed, Feb 08, 2023, 4:39 PM UTC

mytailorisrich wrote: post #19

dragonwriter wrote: post #13

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> If you look at all the players, their interests, and their capabilities, I think the most logical conclusion is that the US likely did it. I disagree. The most logical explanation is tha Russia did it as a capacity demonstration and threat against Baltic Pipe to pressure contries in the region regarding Ukraine, but that, like all their threats against the West over Ukraine policy so far, the threat was hollow.

The US have been overtly against those pipelines and the close relations between Germany and Russia, including and especially energy dependency. In fact, a major win of the US so far in the Ukraine war has been the Europeans' and especially Germany's shift in gas supplies from Russia to themselves. Russia destroying their own pipelines (both NS 1 and the new NS 2 were sabotaged) looks like them shooting themselves in…

Post by [deleted] » Wed, Feb 08, 2023, 5:06 PM UTC

dragonwriter wrote: post #14

eternalban wrote: post #10

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You won’t need a source once the news comes out. This little text bomb thrown by CIA at the Executive can only mean that the Swedes have found conclusive evidence. https://www.rferl.org/a/nord-stream-sabotage-investigation-r... Please note that Radio Free Europe is run by CIA.

> This little text bomb thrown by CIA at the Executive can only mean that the Swedes have found conclusive evidence. That’s a bizarre interpretation, since what the Swedish government says in that article, which is no different than non-US-government news source reporting on the same Swedish statement, is additional evidence of sabotage but no evidence of by whom. > Please note that Radio Free Europe is run by CIA. N…

Post by syzarian » Wed, Feb 08, 2023, 5:10 PM UTC

mytailorisrich wrote: post #22

syzarian wrote: post #21

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Germany gets its gas natural gas from Norway now. It would be unlikely that the U.S. would attack the gas supplies of a major NATO ally. Especially when that ally has been less than enthusiastic in helping Ukraine. https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/where-does-germany-s...

They get a lot from Norway because it is near and there are pipelines, but US' LNG exports to the EU are through the roof and will keep growing as things get organised. Joe talks a lot: " If Russia invades, that means tanks and troops crossing the border of Ukraine again, then there will be no longer a Nord Stream 2, we will bring an end to it. " -- Joe Biden, Feb 2022, with the German's Chancellor standing next to h…

Post by jron » Wed, Feb 08, 2023, 5:56 PM UTC

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Post by dang » Wed, Feb 08, 2023, 6:25 PM UTC

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