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This is one of many, many reasons why western countries and social media companies should not normalise censorship re-branded like "fighting disinformation".
Curiously, all the people that support such censorship in western countries are actually against it in this instance. Almost like whether or not they choose to support a policy depends not on what it does but instead on who it’s being done to.
Twitter restricted in Turkey in aftermath of earthquake
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#162I live in Turkey and was very close to the earthquake epicenter. I can say that communication in affected cities is very limited and Twitter had a real positive effect on organizing help and reaching out to lots of people in the area. So blocking Twitter right now is pure evil. They are only interested in the optics and looking strong for the upcoming election and do not care about anything else. I saw some people wa…
Do you think it will actually harm Erdogan's support though, anger over blocking twitter?
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#163Not to defend Erdogan by any means (passionately despise him as much as I despise Putin), but truth be told - handing to and relying on unbiased/factual information dissemination, via Twitter, in the Musk era, is something highly questionable.
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I agree with funding cuts to the CCP, but there's an argument to be made that de-globalisation is a sure fire way to global conflict.. Mutual interests tend to keep things civilised
Maybe, but globalization is how China got industrialized so fast in the first place. Help your enemy get rich, and then watch as they push you off your place. Not a smart strategy either.
That would probably require a different point of view than labelling China as the enemy, or keeping them pre-industrial and poor in order to control them, as the US has done repeatedly in many south American countries.
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> because we like to talk to americans? You think that's what twitter is? Most of us don't use twitter. > that s like the kid that grabs all the toys for himself, and then has nobody to play with No. It's more like the poor kid that has no toys and has to beg rich kids for their toys to play with. Wouldn't you want the poor kid to have his own toys? Also, having his own toys would make it more likely that other kids…
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No. It's the current state of social media. Go to youtube and look up tiktok videos. Go to tiktok and look up youtube videos. Neither are banned and yet people cross post.
> Here's a hint, if your premise starts with "make your own Twitter", it can't end with "you can collaborate across these independent networks by copying and pasting your thoughts" and somehow call it not isolated.
That's how twitter currently works. It's how memes from reddit end up on twitter and vice versa.
I'm describing how the internet works and has always worked. What do you think "inter" in internet means? That's what I want social media to become.
Using your logic, we should only have 1 social media company. Otherwise, we can't communicate with each other.
Here's a hint, posts from other social and traditional media end up on HN. Amazing huh? The more networks we have, ultimately the more diversity and more connections. That was the point of the "inter"net.
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That Dell was still certainly made in China. And the SSD, while not manufactured in China, likely had components which were. It's practically impossible to avoid it.
I think the point is they haven't purchased a new one in 10 years. Therefore, no more purchase from China.
For someone with such a strong anti-china stance (enough to create a throwaway), I'd expect full devotion to the cause.
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#167Just like in China with the anti-lockdown protests. The people who are recognisable on social media posts from the protests have all been arrested by now. They waited just long enough to make people forget about it before they picked them up one by one.
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I agree with funding cuts to the CCP, but there's an argument to be made that de-globalisation is a sure fire way to global conflict.. Mutual interests tend to keep things civilised
> there's an argument to be made that de-globalisation is a sure fire way to global conflict.. You could make that argument, but that is dependent strongly on everybody being rational actors and there is plenty of evidence that dictatorships are not rational actors.
The reality is that it will take multiple generations for us to get rid politicians who when zoomed out act like teenage boys, and we can argue all we want.
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How do you propose western countries and social media companies fight disinformation?
The solution to bad speech is more speech. Not less.
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How do you propose western countries and social media companies fight disinformation?
The solution to bad speech is more speech. Not less.