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Re: Twitter restricted in Turkey in aftermath of earthquake

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Post by mynameisvlad » Wed, Feb 08, 2023, 4:26 PM UTC

binanc wrote: post #115

seydor wrote: post #104

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because we like to talk to americans? that s like the kid that grabs all the toys for himself, and then has nobody to play with

> because we like to talk to americans? You think that's what twitter is? Most of us don't use twitter. > that s like the kid that grabs all the toys for himself, and then has nobody to play with No. It's more like the poor kid that has no toys and has to beg rich kids for their toys to play with. Wouldn't you want the poor kid to have his own toys? Also, having his own toys would make it more likely that other kids…

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Re: Twitter restricted in Turkey in aftermath of earthquake

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Post by daveguy » Wed, Feb 08, 2023, 4:27 PM UTC

mynameisvlad wrote: post #125

throwawayccp wrote: post #118

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For instance i still use 10y old Dell 14r laptop. When it became slow to run windows i switched to u Ubuntu and added SSD (not china made). I might have purchased less than 10 made in china products in the past 3 years Something is better than nothing

That Dell was still certainly made in China. And the SSD, while not manufactured in China, likely had components which were. It's practically impossible to avoid it.

I think the point is they haven't purchased a new one in 10 years. Therefore, no more purchase from China.

Re: Twitter restricted in Turkey in aftermath of earthquake

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Post by diimdeep » Wed, Feb 08, 2023, 4:27 PM UTC

seydor wrote: post #145

diimdeep wrote: post #135

Understandable. Turkey ruling elites protecting country from possible chaos and hysteria amplified by social media. Twitter is still US based company and if asked would not turn back on US national security interests. As history shows, US tactic is to destabilize countries and make them weak, there is no better tool than social media platform like Twitter. To use Twitter right now and to take advantage of this horrib…

I didn't realize that HN was included in Erdogan's bot army targets

I dare you to say something constructive instead of this 'bot' calling. Here is video to prove my theory [0]

[0] Prank with Former United States National Security Advisor John Bolton https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=895Y5G5E6g8

Re: Twitter restricted in Turkey in aftermath of earthquake

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Post by Tomte » Wed, Feb 08, 2023, 4:27 PM UTC

saltymug76 wrote: post #150

sockaddr wrote: post #102

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Yup. I’m (trying) to do the same. Every little mindless purchase I used to make to fix some minor inconvenience slowly adds up to real harm for someone else at the hands of the CCP. Please stop buying from China. In fact, in recent times Lithuania has been a force for good against China, I’d suggest seeking out their goods if applicable to your needs.

Genuinely curious, what has Lithuania done to stand up against China? And any suggestions on potential things one would buy from them over China? I would like to buy more from countries and people who aren't whipped by the CCP.

They opened a diplomatic representation in Taiwan.

Re: Twitter restricted in Turkey in aftermath of earthquake

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Post by EricE » Wed, Feb 08, 2023, 4:28 PM UTC

beefield wrote: post #87

golergka wrote: post #39

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This is one of many, many reasons why western countries and social media companies should not normalise censorship re-branded like "fighting disinformation".

How do you propose western countries and social media companies fight disinformation?

Why is it up to companies and "western countries" to fight disinformation? Especially when it often turns out they are the biggest propagators of it?

Re: Twitter restricted in Turkey in aftermath of earthquake

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Post by widowlark » Wed, Feb 08, 2023, 4:28 PM UTC

blackoil wrote: post #143

throwawayccp wrote: post #93

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This is why I stopped buying anything that comes form China. No more funding CCP.

If that's your hill, add Turkey, India and Russia to the list. Brazil we'll know in few days.

What about Brazil? I thought Bolsonaro was out?

Re: Twitter restricted in Turkey in aftermath of earthquake

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Post by netfortius » Wed, Feb 08, 2023, 4:29 PM UTC

Not to defend Erdogan by any means (passionately despise him as much as I despise Putin), but truth be told - handing to and relying on unbiased/factual information dissemination, via Twitter, in the Musk era, is something highly questionable.

Re: Twitter restricted in Turkey in aftermath of earthquake

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Post by mc32 » Wed, Feb 08, 2023, 4:29 PM UTC

themitigating wrote: post #149

mc32 wrote: post #140

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Not to defend China, as the scale and the penalties are not comparable, however, some western governments also took a relatively hard stance against some anti-lockdown protests and we're learning government was involved in muting dissenting opinions on social media which in some western countries crosses the line into censorship. The government had embeds in social media orgs. Just imagine if during the Johnson or Ni…

"crosses the line into censorship." Is not compared to being arrested and possibly jailed

It depends on whether we believe in upholding the constitution or not.[1] In addition we did have people arrested for violating lockdown rules/orders.

[1] and given the volatility of this comment it seems people take issue with the bill of rights.

Re: Twitter restricted in Turkey in aftermath of earthquake

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Post by EricE » Wed, Feb 08, 2023, 4:30 PM UTC

jrochkind1 wrote: post #98

Kukumber wrote: post #92

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> Twitter was heavily used to seek help by people in turmoil, even hundreds of people were posting from under the rubbles. The officials were claiming that everything was under control and they are helping everyone but people were posting videos showing the situation on the ground and the situation didn't look even close to being under control. Social media is the first target no matter the country The US do the exac…

> they control them with CIA agents [1*], so it is easier for them to do profiling rather than blocking it I don't understand what you're suggesting CIA agents are controlling. What is "them" in "they control them"? The article you link to involves surveillance (rather than control) by the FBI (rather than CIA).

Good god - the FBI recently got outed (Twitter files - Elon Musk - hello?) paying more than $30M to Twitter to do their bidding. Are you really this ignorant of current events?

Re: Twitter restricted in Turkey in aftermath of earthquake

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Post by jacquesm » Wed, Feb 08, 2023, 4:30 PM UTC

4gotunameagain wrote: post #101

throwawayccp wrote: post #93

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This is why I stopped buying anything that comes form China. No more funding CCP.

I agree with funding cuts to the CCP, but there's an argument to be made that de-globalisation is a sure fire way to global conflict.. Mutual interests tend to keep things civilised

> there's an argument to be made that de-globalisation is a sure fire way to global conflict..

You could make that argument, but that is dependent strongly on everybody being rational actors and there is plenty of evidence that dictatorships are not rational actors.