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Post by unity1001 » Wed, Feb 08, 2023, 4:17 PM UTC

xwdv wrote: post #97

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> Meanwhile the company was focusing on DEI vs skill, and thoughtfulness over delivery That has nothing to do with any of this. Google's doom was due to their total lack of empathy for their end users and customers. They launched stuff, then when those things did not immediately produce gigantic profits like the search ads, they just shut them down on the users' face. One can do it once, twice, the third time people…

I’ve done consulting at Google and know many Xooglers and I can confidently say Google considers users as nothing more than cattle to be shuffled into products where they can be milked for profit. They have no more empathy for a user than they would have for an animal destined to the slaughterhouse. Remember that next time you use a google product.

Post by AJ007 » Wed, Feb 08, 2023, 4:17 PM UTC

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> 2 years later the Bold was released and everyone realized it's just a hastily designed iPhone clone. That marks the end of BB's dominance. I feel like Google is going to bleed credibility for every month that they don't have a lamda/llm enabled search integrated into the home page. You can talk all you want about the foundational models and how advanced they are, but the search product itself will require a ton of…

> Google is going to bleed credibility for every month that they don't have a lamda/llm enabled search integrated into the home page. I don't know that end-users really care about having a GPT-written paragraph accompanying their search results. Is there some other kind of output AI search currently provides that I'm missing?

Post by merely-unlikely » Wed, Feb 08, 2023, 4:18 PM UTC

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ChatGPT as a search engine sounds amazing but also really quite problematic. It's an extension of the issue with Google's "instant answers" (or whatever they're called): right now the creators of the content Google/ChatGPT scrapes are usually paid via the advertisements on their pages. When no-one clicks though any more, no-one gets paid. I know, I know, the ad banner-funded web is a mess and I wouldn't mourn its dem…

In general, generative models are taking publicly available content from creators and are monetizing them for big tech. Same with stable diffusion, AI art. And it'll be the same with LLMs. Eventually the whole internet would be flooded with cheap AI generated content and clearly AIs need human generated content to train on so it'll be the snake eats itself.

Post by verdverm » Wed, Feb 08, 2023, 4:18 PM UTC

jpalomaki wrote: post #65

I think the bigger problem is how does something like ChatGPT fit into Google's business model for search. Conversational interface and/or giving immediate answers may not be the best option in terms of ad revenue. Users re-iterating their search queries gives more opportunities to show ads. When users are scanning the page for best results, they might be more likely to click on the ads with clever wording.

Post by bsaul » Wed, Feb 08, 2023, 4:20 PM UTC

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> I hope Google is not pulling a Blackberry moment. It would be awesome, actually. Demonopolization of search space is long due. We need some breath of fresh air there.

Google’s dominance is because of network effects; the largest search engine collects more data about what people are searching for and has the largest ad inventory, making it hard to compete with. ChatGPT has similar network effects with feedback. If Google is displaced, it will likely be in favor of another single dominant solution, not a commoditized industry with lots of players. It’s possible that niche domains l…