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Toxic Exposure: The True Story Behind the Monsanto Trials

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Re: Toxic Exposure: The True Story Behind the Monsanto Trials

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Post by kazinator »

smilliken wrote: post #7
overreg wrote: post #5

"Organizations such as the Joint FAO/WHO Meeting on Pesticide Residues and the European Commission, Canadian Pest Management Regulatory Agency, and the German Federal Institute for Risk Assessment[30] have concluded that there is no evidence that glyphosate poses a carcinogenic or genotoxic risk to humans. The final assessment of the Australian Pesticides and Veterinary Medicines Authority in 2017 was that "glyphosat…

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So what? What, not who.

The referenced Wikipedia page, which you can easily find without help from a green HN account, wasn't created minutes ago.

Re: Toxic Exposure: The True Story Behind the Monsanto Trials

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Post by adrr »

hammock wrote: post #20
adrr wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For comparison, hot beverages(eg: Coffee), red meat and working the night shift are also probable carcinogens. Known carcinogens include alcohol, fried food, bbq/grilling.

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What does this have to do with the discussion? Hackernews is suppose to be about constructive debate.

Re: Toxic Exposure: The True Story Behind the Monsanto Trials

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Post by kazinator »

mbustamanter wrote: post #10
overreg wrote: post #5

"Organizations such as the Joint FAO/WHO Meeting on Pesticide Residues and the European Commission, Canadian Pest Management Regulatory Agency, and the German Federal Institute for Risk Assessment[30] have concluded that there is no evidence that glyphosate poses a carcinogenic or genotoxic risk to humans. The final assessment of the Australian Pesticides and Veterinary Medicines Authority in 2017 was that "glyphosat…

Absence of evidence != Evidence of absence. This mistake is especially pernicious when facing the choice of repeated trials, and something inherent to this topic since constantly eating food that at some point was subject to this chemical is by definition a repeated trial.

Yes, absence of evidence is evidence of absence, under the right evidence-gathering circumstances.

Would you say that perhaps there are pigs which can fly, because absence of the evidence of the existence of flying pigs isn't evidence of their absence?

Re: Toxic Exposure: The True Story Behind the Monsanto Trials

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Post by giantg2 »

dr_faustus wrote: post #12

Next up: "The will say anything for money: The true story of how expert witnesses made up all kinds of bullshit over the years and got paid handsomely for it." Expert witnesses caused all sorts of suffering by giving misleading or plainly false testimony and forced the first lyme disease vaccine of the market ( https://time.com/6073576/lyme-disease-vaccine/ ). Just one example.

The article is paywalled.

The lyme vaccine went off the market due to a lack of adoption as well as factors related to it's utility (80% effectiveness seems high, but can provide false confidence and doesn't negate any of the normal prophylactic steps. But it can lead to difficulty in diagnostics given they test for antibody levels).

Sure, the law suit didn't help anything, but it wasn't the main reason. Expert witnesses on many cases can provide opposing opinions and interpretations of the case. It's up to the court and jury to decide. There are a number of errors even in the more rigorous criminal courts where an incorrect judgement has been rendered. This speaks more about the flaws in the system around determining truth or believability than can be attributed to any one party.

Re: Toxic Exposure: The True Story Behind the Monsanto Trials

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Post by hammock »

adrr wrote: post #22
hammock wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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What does this have to do with the discussion? Hackernews is suppose to be about constructive debate.

Maybe I am missing the constructive nature of your comment, can you clarify? Are you proposing coffee is as cancerous as Roundup? Constructively, have you seen this video? https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2015/03/monsanto-lobbyist-dr...

Re: Toxic Exposure: The True Story Behind the Monsanto Trials

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Post by arminiusreturns »

pkphilip wrote: post #6
dreen wrote: post #3

The damage is still being done. I am a non-producing farmer in EEU. I know for a fact many local farmers still use Roundup on crops, even though its illegal. There are no checks done when they sell the grain. All the bees in the area have already died.

Why is this comment being downvoted?

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Re: Toxic Exposure: The True Story Behind the Monsanto Trials

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Post by hammock »

arminiusreturns wrote: post #28
pkphilip wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why is this comment being downvoted?

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>I quit a good job in the agriculture business once I found out the idiot "daddys money got squandered" business owner got his new injection in cash in a backroom deal w/ Monsanto.

Curious about this. Did Monsanto give the farmer an advance or something, in return for agreeing to use/switch to their seed?

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