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Monocle: A pocket sized open-source AR device

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Re: Monocle: A pocket sized open-source AR device

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Post by com2kid »

malermeister wrote: post #141
com2kid wrote: post #93

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> I wouldn't touch any kind of AR use case while driving. Seems ripe for lawsuits when you're obscuring a driver's view (especially with an eyepiece compared to putting a HUD on the windshield) Cities, walking. :) Walking around a city pulling out my phone to check directions is actively stupid, a HUD with arrows telling me what intersection to go down would improve safety on multiple fronts. (Theft and not situation…

Would be nice for public transport, too, if indoors navigation works in some of the more complicated train/subway stations!

Looking at you, Japanese railway stations!

Though honestly on vacation there, I enjoyed getting lost in Shinjuku station. :D

Office complexes, finding someone's desk.

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Post by 8n4vidtmkvmk »

lucb1e wrote: post #173
birdyrooster wrote: post #168

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The zoom says 16x and yes it looks like 1.5x, it's weird. Seems like a scam.

To be fair, I feel like the 16x frame looks more like 2x than 1.5x, but yeah someone ought to do the math there and be honest about what you're going to be seeing. /me realizes something Wait, the camera is advertised as being 720p. No mention of optical zoom (and smartphones (which are bigger and heavier!) don't have that either). I'm allowed to drive, so I'd say my eyesight ought to be better than 720p (at least af…

maybe it uses stable diffusion to upscale?

Re: Monocle: A pocket sized open-source AR device

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Post by alchemist1e9 »

ge96 wrote: post #186
alchemist1e9 wrote: post #180

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Nreal Airs mentioned in another comment thread seem viable for the dishes problem. Thought I should mention to you.

I saw those a while back looked interesting. I already pre-ordered a simula vr headset regarding both-eyes. I know they're not the same thing but yeah.

I’ve been looking more at the Nreals since I replied and they are potentially an out of the box solution to the text information while doing dishes.

I’m thinking a custom textual python terminal app on transparent terminal emulator on black background with tiling window manager. I have a GPD microPC so it seems if I add the Nreal adapter to connect hdmi. Then all it’s really missing is some type of input mechanism maybe via bluetooth.

The Nreals looks potentially good enough to be literally walking around safely if the textual TUI is designed in a way to not be too distracting.

Edit: found this for input mechanism.

https://www.tapwithus.com/product/tap-strap-2/

This idea looks fairly realistic to me.

Re: Monocle: A pocket sized open-source AR device

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Post by 8n4vidtmkvmk »

thaeli wrote: post #187
atomicUpdate wrote: post #76

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> A killer app for me would be floating name tags above people's heads, but I imagine that would require better HW than what is available here. This is a societal issue, more than a HW/SW issue. Google Glass explicitly bans this type of feature: https://developers.google.com/glass/policies#c_what_you_cant... > Don't use the camera or microphone to cross-reference and immediately present personal information identifyi…

The Google Glass backlash (which may well have happened to any AR glasses) has set back practical use of AR in private life so much. It's frustrating, especially because of the splash damage it's had. What's particularly odd to me is that many people seem to be sensitive about, specifically, cameras in glasses. I sometimes literally wear a bodycam, not subtle at all, and it's mostly ignored, while with no-camera HUD…

the difference is if the camera is obvious then you at least know you're being recorded. playing a guessing game 24/7 is exhausting. being recorded once in awhile not such a big deal. having to watch every word and every action you do all the time? not nice.

Re: Monocle: A pocket sized open-source AR device

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Post by 8n4vidtmkvmk »

atomicUpdate wrote: post #76
com2kid wrote: post #47

As someone with only 1 eye, this is quite suited to me! I am actually sad that the previous crop of "low cost, slim, not earth shattering" AR glasses all died out. A camera built into one stem and some simple text displayed for one eye would suffice for a ton of use cases. A killer app for me would be floating name tags above people's heads, but I imagine that would require better HW than what is available here. I'd…

> A killer app for me would be floating name tags above people's heads, but I imagine that would require better HW than what is available here. This is a societal issue, more than a HW/SW issue. Google Glass explicitly bans this type of feature: https://developers.google.com/glass/policies#c_what_you_cant... > Don't use the camera or microphone to cross-reference and immediately present personal information identifyi…

maybe open source will help with that. maybe some nobody will make those features and you can sideload and it'll be quiet enough that no one will know for awhile.

Re: Monocle: A pocket sized open-source AR device

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Post by thaeli »

naravara wrote: post #146
danielEM wrote: post #117

I like all these "cool" devices, love the idea, even got myself nreal air, but ... these are overpriced gadgets, I mean not worth the money that you have to pay for them as these do nothing well: not a good AR, not a good screen, not a convenient device, expensive.

Same. They're neat tech demos, but aside from turn-by-turn directions I don't really see any of them being particularly helpful aside from being a novelty. I really don't get the demand for weird social overlays on top of people, that seems distracting more than anything. (Even demand for the turn-by-turn I think is largely driven by people allowing turn-by-turn to erode their natural sense of direction and ability t…

Many of those are viable "enterprise" use cases.. which usually means expensive hardware, but we're already seeing several of those deployed. Microsoft seems to have made a very good decision with HoloLens to ignore the consumer market and aim entirely at enabling high-end stuff. Overlays for workers isn't common yet, but it is in use. And the Army isn't giving up on IVAS despite continued teething problems.

Re: Monocle: A pocket sized open-source AR device

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Post by xwdv »

alwayslikethis wrote: post #181
xwdv wrote: post #98

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> I wouldn't expect any "official" facial recognition on any of these upcoming AR devices any time soon. I would, just not for the general public. This would be very helpful for police to immediately do a check on people around them and spot people with active warrants.

By that logic, why not just put cameras everywhere, use image recognition tech to do all the identification and enforcement, from traffic violations to active warrants, China-style?

That’s a great idea!!

Re: Monocle: A pocket sized open-source AR device

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Post by melagonster »

thaeli wrote: post #187
atomicUpdate wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> A killer app for me would be floating name tags above people's heads, but I imagine that would require better HW than what is available here. This is a societal issue, more than a HW/SW issue. Google Glass explicitly bans this type of feature: https://developers.google.com/glass/policies#c_what_you_cant... > Don't use the camera or microphone to cross-reference and immediately present personal information identifyi…

The Google Glass backlash (which may well have happened to any AR glasses) has set back practical use of AR in private life so much. It's frustrating, especially because of the splash damage it's had. What's particularly odd to me is that many people seem to be sensitive about, specifically, cameras in glasses. I sometimes literally wear a bodycam, not subtle at all, and it's mostly ignored, while with no-camera HUD…

user will upload they pictures to cloud, now company have picture of everyone live in their village.

Re: Monocle: A pocket sized open-source AR device

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Post by moron4hire »

8n4vidtmkvmk wrote: post #194
thaeli wrote: post #187

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Google Glass backlash (which may well have happened to any AR glasses) has set back practical use of AR in private life so much. It's frustrating, especially because of the splash damage it's had. What's particularly odd to me is that many people seem to be sensitive about, specifically, cameras in glasses. I sometimes literally wear a bodycam, not subtle at all, and it's mostly ignored, while with no-camera HUD…

the difference is if the camera is obvious then you at least know you're being recorded. playing a guessing game 24/7 is exhausting. being recorded once in awhile not such a big deal. having to watch every word and every action you do all the time? not nice.

This is a case where people's expectations really need to catch up. We're being recorded in so many ways in so many situations that "helping someone remember your name" is really the least of your concerns.

Unfortunately, that's also why "auto-name-tagging" is never going to happen. It doesn't help the gigantocorps who are already tracking us through wifi and IR and seismic patterns in public places. They've had data that could make the individual experience immeasurably better for nearly 15 years now, but they conveniently use "privacy concerns" to avoid having to acknowledge it in public. As long as there is a modicum of suspension of disbelief, they can continue to collect all the data they want for their own purposes and to hell with anyone who wants to use their own data for their own purposes.

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