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Extreme Minimalism: this guy owns just 15 things

andrewhy.de

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Re: Extreme Minimalism: this guy owns just 15 things

#21
Curious that he doesn't mention "big bank balance" which makes life a lot more comfortable for him.

He needs food? He buys food. He needs emergency accommodation? (Because his friend's house burns down or some such) He can buy that accommodation for the nights he needs it.

Having just become homeless[1] myself (not through choice) I've whittled down my possessions to something that's easy to carry. Following his rules (stuff that'd be annoying to buy again) I have a computer; a games console; an mp3 player; some headphones; a kindle; one pair trousers.

I have more clothes, but they're easy to replace. The Kindle is odd - one item, with many books on it. But they are easy to replace. Personally, I think that's a flaw in his method.

By a more reasonable counting system I have money (not much, but much more than other people in similar situations in my country, and very very much more than people in other countries); I have the gadgets (and associated chargers / headphones / cases / bags / media / software); I have clothes.

[1] As I've mentioned it, take a look at this website.

(http://gloshomeseeker.co.uk)

It's aimed at people needing "social housing". (I don't; I have no idea why I was given that URL, maybe it's just the script they follow.) IT IS AN APPALLING WEBSITE, AND A DREADFUL FORM. From the broken security mixing secure and insecure stuff, to the weird form flow.

Re: Extreme Minimalism: this guy owns just 15 things

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Balance. An extreme of "something" is not good...

I consider it a good thing when a person is extremely reasonable. Or extremely thoughtful. Or extremely honest. Or extremely patient. Or extremely gracious. We don't need balance in all things. A rocket only makes it safely to the moon if the engineers are extremely cautious. Bill Gates is extremely charitable. Einstein was extremely intelligent. The idea that "extreme X for any X" is bad is some sort of pseudo-wisdo…

If you are extremely thoughtful to the point that you never get any work done, then this is also a bad thing.

Re: Extreme Minimalism: this guy owns just 15 things

#23
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It may not be physical but he has a blog, that's a thing. Email address, tumbler account, Flicker account, etc, etc.

I'd disagree, simply because you could take that to the extreme. Does he own the water he drinks, the air he breathes, the life he lives through? As far as I can see, we're talking strictly in physical items.

His definition of "I count my things as resellable items I would be pissed if someone took." would appear to cover email addresses and blog accounts etc. Maybe not much resale value, but anyone would be 'pissed' if their email account was taken.

Re: Extreme Minimalism: this guy owns just 15 things

#24
If he can group things together like his 'toiletry kit', then I'll do the same with my clothes (though I have toiletries, too). Aside from my clothes, I have 10 books, a laptop and a cell phone. If we're going off of things I'd be pissed if someone stole then that'd be my MBA and all of my clothes...so I guess I kind of own two things.

I've lived like this for 10 years.

Re: Extreme Minimalism: this guy owns just 15 things

#26
If he didn't have friends or family willing to give him a place to stay then he would have to increase the number of things that he owned.

Which isn't a bad thing.

Certain objects are worthwhile owning. I'm particularly fond of robots which decrease my need to do menial labour.

My washing machine and dishwasher saves me at least 30 minutes a day.

Re: Extreme Minimalism: this guy owns just 15 things

#27
Minimalism and 'getting rid of your possessions' has been one of those hot internet topics for as long as I can remember.

The trend I notice is that the articles preaching the extreme end of this are almost always written by 20-something bloggers who are so much happier now they're couch surfing the world care free rather than 'working 9-5 to pay for that TV'.

Obviously, there is a large truth in there. We all take only a few things on holiday with us and enjoy it. But sleeping on other peoples couches, using their kitchens, bathrooms and towels, and freelancing to get some money to your paypal account now and then isn't a particularly sustainable lifestyle.

I suspect if you came back in 10 years you'll see a different picture. If you want to think about having children or living a generally western lifestyle as opposed to a '3rd world' or really homeless lifestyle then there's a sensible balance point.

I believe rejecting materialism is about giving your energy, focus and love to your passions, your family, and enjoying the experiences life gives you over material things. Not blindly aiming to own 10 or 20 objects while you're basically renting or borrowing everything else to keep living in a western style. All things in moderation :)

Re: Extreme Minimalism: this guy owns just 15 things

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I consider it a good thing when a person is extremely reasonable. Or extremely thoughtful. Or extremely honest. Or extremely patient. Or extremely gracious. We don't need balance in all things. A rocket only makes it safely to the moon if the engineers are extremely cautious. Bill Gates is extremely charitable. Einstein was extremely intelligent. The idea that "extreme X for any X" is bad is some sort of pseudo-wisdo…

If you are extremely thoughtful to the point that you never get any work done, then this is also a bad thing.

And if you're so patient that you keep waiting for food indefinitely you'll starve. This is just silly.

Re: Extreme Minimalism: this guy owns just 15 things

#30
My own experience from living out of a max 20kg suitcase is that owning too few things forces you to think about things a lot more than you would like to. Do I keep this? What do I throw away instead? Where do I get this quickly if such and such event occurs? What's the cost of buying this versus keeping/transporting it. Who can I borrow this from? Am I bothering them too much if I borrow this again? Etc, etc.

My conclusion is that owning too much stuff increases complexity, but owning too little does too and it can be very expensive.

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