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Monocle: A pocket sized open-source AR device

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Re: Monocle: A pocket sized open-source AR device

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Post by lucasgonze »

com2kid wrote: post #47

As someone with only 1 eye, this is quite suited to me! I am actually sad that the previous crop of "low cost, slim, not earth shattering" AR glasses all died out. A camera built into one stem and some simple text displayed for one eye would suffice for a ton of use cases. A killer app for me would be floating name tags above people's heads, but I imagine that would require better HW than what is available here. I'd…

Good list. I'd also find an HUD display like this useful for playing music:

- lyrics - chord changes - a visual metronome

Re: Monocle: A pocket sized open-source AR device

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Post by lucb1e »

birdyrooster wrote: post #168
lucb1e wrote: post #152

Is there a picture of this wearable being worn by someone, preferably with a resolution greater than 480x320 pixels at a distance where the torso is in view as well? I'm not uninterested, but at this price point, selling a ~400 euro device that I didn't know existed until 30 seconds ago takes a bit more convincing, especially with a gif showing 1.5x the original size and calling it 8x zoom. Seriously, the only two im…

The zoom says 16x and yes it looks like 1.5x, it's weird. Seems like a scam.

To be fair, I feel like the 16x frame looks more like 2x than 1.5x, but yeah someone ought to do the math there and be honest about what you're going to be seeing.

/me realizes something

Wait, the camera is advertised as being 720p. No mention of optical zoom (and smartphones (which are bigger and heavier!) don't have that either). I'm allowed to drive, so I'd say my eyesight ought to be better than 720p (at least after the brain's post-processing, as eyeballs are allegedly pretty terrible). In that case, "zooming" cannot help to see more. If this crops 720 pixels by a factor of 16, you get 45 pixels blown up to the whole screen. Plus motion blur. I can understand they didn't show what 16x would look like!

What a scam of a feature, neither being 16x nor being useful at all nor being zoom by any of merriam webster's definitions. Either that or I am majorly missing something here.

Re: Monocle: A pocket sized open-source AR device

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Post by lancesells »

com2kid wrote: post #47

As someone with only 1 eye, this is quite suited to me! I am actually sad that the previous crop of "low cost, slim, not earth shattering" AR glasses all died out. A camera built into one stem and some simple text displayed for one eye would suffice for a ton of use cases. A killer app for me would be floating name tags above people's heads, but I imagine that would require better HW than what is available here. I'd…

A killer app for me would be to make all the windows in my apartment seem larger. Scenery can stay the same just make them 1.3x the size.

Re: Monocle: A pocket sized open-source AR device

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Post by retrac »

joshspankit wrote: post #92
atomicUpdate wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> A killer app for me would be floating name tags above people's heads, but I imagine that would require better HW than what is available here. This is a societal issue, more than a HW/SW issue. Google Glass explicitly bans this type of feature: https://developers.google.com/glass/policies#c_what_you_cant... > Don't use the camera or microphone to cross-reference and immediately present personal information identifyi…

Not even an exception for user-entered data. Like, I could conceivably take photos of people I meet, store those photos along with notes in the iOS notes app (or even a contact app) then create a panel of those photos so that I can tap the right person and bring up those notes when I see them again. AR would simply make this easier and faster. Unless the AR camera was hidden it would not make it different from a priv…

> easier and faster

That's the thing. The privacy implications are different at scale.

A world of FOSS tools, where centralized ID databases are heavily restricted or banned, and people are using facial recognition technology on people they encounter in their lives and tag, that would be fairly harmless, perhaps even doing much more good than harm.

But it's not going to play out like that. How many of us run speech transcription software on our own machines, and how many of us use a remote service?

Re: Monocle: A pocket sized open-source AR device

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Post by taneq »

atomicUpdate wrote: post #76
com2kid wrote: post #47

As someone with only 1 eye, this is quite suited to me! I am actually sad that the previous crop of "low cost, slim, not earth shattering" AR glasses all died out. A camera built into one stem and some simple text displayed for one eye would suffice for a ton of use cases. A killer app for me would be floating name tags above people's heads, but I imagine that would require better HW than what is available here. I'd…

> A killer app for me would be floating name tags above people's heads, but I imagine that would require better HW than what is available here. This is a societal issue, more than a HW/SW issue. Google Glass explicitly bans this type of feature: https://developers.google.com/glass/policies#c_what_you_cant... > Don't use the camera or microphone to cross-reference and immediately present personal information identifyi…

> Google Glass explicitly bans this type of feature:

But that's, like, 90% of what I'd want something like that for. Not for everyone in my field of view, of course, but when I'm out in the field I meet a lot of people in a short time and I can never remember everyone's names. Work shirts with embroidered names are an absolute godsend.

Re: Monocle: A pocket sized open-source AR device

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Post by totetsu »

numpad0 wrote: post #125
blensor wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are there any relatively low cost 6DOF standalone tracking systems in the wild? The closest thing I know are the Quest Pro controllers, but I don't understand why nobody is building such a thing as a plug an play solution that you can stick onto something and have immediate inside out positioning

Sony mocopi QM-SS1 is kind of 6DoF standalone 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0d-x0l2HtA

Is that Motion Capture and Copy and the cute suffix -pi, together to make Mocopi..?

Re: Monocle: A pocket sized open-source AR device

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Post by shagie »

skedaddle wrote: post #130
thot_experiment wrote: post #72

I want an open source monochrome vector display delivered by laser to my retinas directly. I would slambuy such a thing and dedicated the rest of my life to making the best pocketable chorded keyboard. I, like many of you, am very good at telling a computer what to do with letters and symbols. I spend a lot of time in voice calls and I often write little scripts while I'm talking to answer questions, ballpark numbers…

Dumb question maybe, but why does it need to be transparent or else projected directly into your eye? What doesn't work (or wouldn't work for you) about a flip-down hard backed display?

A lot of distance approximation for humans is done with parallax. (not everyone, I worked with a guy who's brain wouldn't do distance approximation via parallax and so when he went to 3d movies with friends he wore an eyepatch)

If you completely obscure one eye's vision that no longer works and you've lost your depth perception.

Even having one eye blurry is sufficient for parallax to work. (I have very different prescriptions for each eye and if I take my glasses off I can still do distance vision even though one eye can't read any text further away than about 2 feet)

So try it - put an eye patch on for a day and see how many door frames you walk into... or the headache you may get trying to use focusing an eye at different distances (and that's fairly tiring for the lens muscle to be doing all day if it isn't properly exercised).

Re: Monocle: A pocket sized open-source AR device

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Post by alchemist1e9 »

ge96 wrote: post #136
alchemist1e9 wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps there is something already for this. Another comment pointed out that would be HUD not AR. What you describe is something I also want/need.

Yeah I can do python, have not used micropython and I have not worked with FPGA's before so that's not what I'm trying to do now. The micropython sounds more tangible to me. So I'm going to see about somehow feeding in text into the monocle via phone/BT... like an OBS situation. Then you could use your phone's screen as a mouse/input method. I know it seems pointless just use your phone... but you know... it's cool.…

Nreal Airs mentioned in another comment thread seem viable for the dishes problem. Thought I should mention to you.
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