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Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

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Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

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I have mixed feelings about this. I like the integration and the helpfulness, reminds me of the ships computer off the Enterprise in Star Trek in that it can be very useful for collecting information to help learn and make decisions. Things I don't like: This adds a layer between content creators and the user, its opaque, we don't know what filtering, censoring is happening, how accurate the information is that is be…

I think it's a continuation of what's been happening for years on Google search result pages:

- At the top of the page, everyone is familiar with the massive infoboxes that summarize the query and often push to other Google properties rather than the source.

- The actual web results in the middle of the page are often trash due to high ad load, SEO blog spam, etc. And of course you are only seeing the output of a filtered/censored ranking system.

- They're even taking over the bottom of the page too, at least on mobile. If I search for "San Francisco", after scrolling a bit I get into an infinite scroll of other suggested queries, like "hotels in San Francisco".

Google made the decision to heavily bias and editorialize their search results a long time ago, but it's turned into a frankenstein because to some extent it still masquerades as what it used to be. The chat interface might be a good way to cut through that charade and get to the point more directly.

Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

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Its goal is to kill Google + Chrome i think. Profit comes later ?

Not if Microsoft kills itself in the process? At best it's a Pyrrhic victory as both companies sink enormous infra costs to outdo one another. Worst case could be like Nokia acquisition debacle a decade ago when Microsoft desperately tried to re-break into mobile and failed. There was a HN thread on this a while ago where consensus was serving cost ~$0.03-0.05 PER query, which is absolutely huge. Adds more credence t…

It's hard for Google now i think. It has really bad reputation on many things, which are hard to re-earn.

I myself no longer use Google search, and less Gmail (mostly for throwaway content).

Google gonna have a hard time to earn reputation in their services. They lost the "trust" war.

Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

#233

I have mixed feelings about this. I like the integration and the helpfulness, reminds me of the ships computer off the Enterprise in Star Trek in that it can be very useful for collecting information to help learn and make decisions. Things I don't like: This adds a layer between content creators and the user, its opaque, we don't know what filtering, censoring is happening, how accurate the information is that is be…

This seems to be aiming to be an "answer engine".

That's a very different thing than a search engine. My fear is that search engines will atrophy or go away, and I will have lost very important functionality.

Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

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Well, they better start figuring out how to let writers opt out of this horseshit because I am not about to live my life and write content knowing that some AI model will hoover it up and fuck me out of my livelihood.

Did you hoover up anything from books you've read?

And your point is what exactly?

Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

#236
I was hoping they would do more than just put ChatGPT into Bing.

For instance, the question about travel should generate a result of suggested places that includes photos and links to more information. The result should be easily skimmable to let the user narrow in on things that are interesting and skip over things that are not.

Instead, it just generates a text essay in a chat bubble that you have to read through each time.

Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

#237

How does Bing, at whatever point, overcome the odd issue of: "google it" is a verb in pretty much every culture I've traveled through. Bing isn't even in the conversation. Changing the tech doesn't mean much on this one, but I'm curious what others think here.

Hand me a kleenex, will you?

Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

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There already is an api to interact with chatgpt.

i mean for injecting commercial links to responses.

You can do that today with LangChain.

https://langchain.readthedocs.io/en/latest/modules/agents.ht...

Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

#240

Yesterday Google and now Microsoft both announcing their own chat bot integration and yet there is not a single link where I can try out either one of them. What is this new trend of announcing things as if it's available for general use and then hiding it behind invites or not making it available at all.

someone posted this above but you can join the waitlist here https://bing.com/new

It worked for me after trying a few times. Not in the US.
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