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Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

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Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

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I’m really curious as to how on Earth did Google fumble the ball on this stuff? It’s hilarious that their search offering has been so bad for so long that the new Big Idea in Search is “What if you searched something and the returned result wasn’t garbage?”

I don't see it as fumbling the ball. The technology is brand new and Google just yesterday announced they are currently testing bringing this to chat too. Just like Apple does not release folding phones and rear screens first, the major player does not need to be the first mover. OpenAI has grabbed all the publicity but this entire time Google research has been publishing their own work in the field and they have shown it off at the annual google developer conference.

Now the day after Google announced that they are beginning large scale testing of this feature in search for an imminent wide release, Microsoft has released their version. There is no need for Google to be the absolute first. What is most important is that they keep the Google brand looking great and they release the feature when it is ready.

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This is a potentially momentous occasion here. Microsoft is betting hard that they can mount a challenge to Google, and I think ChatGPT can credibly attempt that. The answer from Google so far is weak. The thought that Bing may actually overtake Google would be hilarious a few months ago, and now it looks... possible?

Google definitely made a strategic mistake by being slow to react and only taking action late. But Bing only has a limited period of time before Google catches up, and it doesn't seem like it will be enough to take away significant marketshare.

Google made a strategic mistake by being utter crap for the last few years.

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During the early stages of the Great Depression, the average age of workers went down as economic costs mounted in keeping the older, less efficient, more compensated workers employed. This simultaneously led to increased mechanization by factory owners and the creation of social security by the federal government. I can't help but noticing the potential for the same pattern here. It feels like we've reached Bronze Orientation Day for Silicon: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6O6jbZ_fdrY

Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

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Is the https://bing.com/new link working? I'm not sure if it's not live yet or if I'm not seeing it because I'm checking from a Mac (via both Chrome and the OSX version of Edge)

Does not work for me on Android in the US, on Chrome or Firefox.

Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

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Innovators dilemma at play.

- Google look at LLM through the lens of advertising.

- Microsoft look at LLM through the lens of browser and search competition.

The launch strategy might indicate that Cortana has an even worse market share than Bing, even though it is better form factor for ChatGPT integration. Curious what others think.

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Microsoft better create an API for third parties to receive traffic or otherwise interact with the GPT , or they ll get sued left and right. Sounds like this could be momentous indeed, unless i m missing something

There already is an api to interact with chatgpt.

i mean for injecting commercial links to responses.

Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

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What is something like "ChatGPT Search" going to do to the web as a whole?

Are we further consolidating resources into a few language models and now there will only be a few places for answers?

The skeptic in me is worried. It seems like information will be distilled down and lots of opinions and details will be lost in the process.

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If you haven’t realised yet, Microsoft Bing with ChatGPT is the last stage of the EEE phase ‘Extinguish’ after embracing and extending OpenAI, that will drive and undercut other competing services like Jasper.ai to zero and the best AI tools for free or close to free. It will significantly affect smaller so-called AI companies like Jasper.ai than Google. But this announcement is unsurprising and as expected. [0] I wi…

So your thinking is that they had an idea to extinguish $10 billion by giving it to a company and then destroying them?

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During the early stages of the Great Depression, the average age of workers went down as economic costs mounted in keeping the older, less efficient, more compensated workers employed. This simultaneously led to increased mechanization by factory owners and the creation of social security by the federal government. I can't help but noticing the potential for the same pattern here. It feels like we've reached Bronze O…

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Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

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Google is stepping out of the frying pan and into the fire. They foolishly derive 50+% of their income from search, where there is no longer a moat. The golden goose is cooked. Edit: It's quite possible that anyone will be able to enter this race right now and build LLM silos for their own domain. This cracks monolithic search wide open. GameFaqs becomes ChatGG, where you can ask, "How do I beat Ridley for the second…

Too early to say. Microsoft has to execute well, as a first-mover, while Google has to fail to execute. This could easily blow up in Microsoft's face (infrastructure failure or safety/correctness issues), or Google could put out a peer product and win simply due to existing momentum in search.

> Google could put out a peer product and win simply due to existing momentum in search.

This is the likely outcome, but I don't see how it's anything but an utter disaster for Google. The only way for chatbots to monetize at the rate google is currently monetizing search is by the responses themselves being ads. Would people use such a product or would they reject in favor of a product that has simple banner ads? I think the answer is clear. Even if Google retained 99.9% market share in search their revenue would nosedive and their expenses would surely skyrocket with the amount of compute required to run these models.

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