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Cloudflare is destroying the open internet
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#12Cloudflare has pushed against public sentiment and mildly against the government to restrict censorship. They would want nothing more than be just "delivery infrastructure" part of the internet. All the points about transparency, monopolies, and privacy concerns and implicit trust in general level are true, of course. They should be addressed. If you want to resist attacks and deliver content efficiently you need CDN…
> Cloudflare has pushed against public sentiment [..] to restrict censorship.
Except when they booted sites off their network because Twitter users were upset..
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#13> In an era where the internet is becoming increasingly important, it's crucial that governments ensure that companies like Cloudflare are not able to use their power to limit access to information or censor speech Cloudflare should be seen as an ISP. An ISP is neutral and doesn't care about what content flows through its network. My only gripe is Cloudflare has to /store/ content on its servers, so it's not really a…
> My only gripe is Cloudflare has to /store/ content on its servers, so it's not really an ISP in the traditional sense.
Traditionally (at least in my experience), back in the pre-HTTPS-everywhere days, ISPs often had Squid proxies, sometimes optional (had to be manually configured) and sometimes "transparent" (the ISP's router forcefully forwarded all connections matching TCP destination port 80 to the Squid proxy). IMHO, that's a close enough analogue to Cloudflare's main business.
Re: Cloudflare is destroying the open internet
#14Cloudflare has pushed against public sentiment and mildly against the government to restrict censorship. They would want nothing more than be just "delivery infrastructure" part of the internet. All the points about transparency, monopolies, and privacy concerns and implicit trust in general level are true, of course. They should be addressed. If you want to resist attacks and deliver content efficiently you need CDN…
> Cloudflare has pushed against public sentiment [..] to restrict censorship. Except when they booted sites off their network because Twitter users were upset..
Upset over serious, credible, actionable, threats of violence against other people hosted on those sites.
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#15Earlier quoted context omitted.
The concerns listed in the article all seem repevant to companies hosting things. Im so so on cloudflare decrypting traffic for example, which they easily can do. Your arguments are somewhat crudely stated, but the impacts on users are what concern me. The Internet Is For Users. And this policy of blocking & obstructing users along the way is 100% my worst concern about CloudFlare. It's gross to the max. I really lik…
It's hilarious as some time ago they vomited this blogpost https://blog.cloudflare.com/introducing-cryptographic-attest... > "Humanity wastes about 500 years per day on CAPTCHAs. It’s time to end this madness" Yeah no shit Cloudflare, YOU'RE THE REASON FOR IT. And the solution is "use hardware keys and track everyone"
> Yeah no shit Cloudflare, YOU'RE THE REASON FOR IT.
Cloudflare is not the reason for it - ridiculous amounts of bot traffic is. Bot traffic that is either malicious, resource consuming, or actively trying to bring your website down. CAPTCHAs are just the best tool we have to block them, and I don't believe it is completely fair to have website operators just put up with it for the sake of the users - it's a team effort. Let's solve the internet's actual problems so that we don't need things like Cloudflare to patch symptoms instead of causes.
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#16CDNs are inherently "monopolistic", under the definition this author uses. The cost to entry into the market means that there's never going to be a wide variety of providers. That said, there's no shortage of other large CDNs, so the accusation seems odd when Fastly and Akamai go unmentioned.
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#17The security check should detect properly the web engine based on the user agent http header and provide only javascript stuff for geeko/blink/webkit (the only 3), and a noscript/basic (x)html system for all the others (netsurf/links2/edbrowse/lynx/dillo/any lean and light web engine past/present/futur).
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#18This was never the open internet. You can't send a direct packet to another person without intermediaries and cloud systems. You can barely host a website from your personal computer, most cannot. This internet is as they say sold out.
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#19Posts like this make me really wish this site had a downvote button.
There is, its called flag but you cant use it til you reach a certain threshold of karma.
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#20Cloudflare is _far_ from a monopoly. Akamai and Microsoft still hold huge leads in a lot of spaces.