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Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

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Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

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This is undeniably cool and impressive, but, I think proceeding down this research path, at this pace, is quite irresponsible. The primary effect of OpenAI's work has been to set off an arms race, and the effect of that is that humanity no longer has the ability to make decisions about how fast and how far to go with AGI development.

Obviously this isn't a system that's going to recursively self-improve and wipe out humanity. But if you extrapolate the current crazy-fast rate of advancement a bit into the future, it's clearly heading towards a point where this gets extremely dangerous.

It's good that they're paying lip service to safety/aligment, what actually matters, from a safety perspective, is the relative rates of progress in how well we can understand and control these language models, and how capable we make them. There is good research happening in language-model understanding/control, but it's happening slowly, compared to the rate of capability advances, and that's a problem.

Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

#103

So much for "citing its work." The answer I got here: https://www.bing.com/search?q=What%20cars%20should%20I%20con... Says the Tesla Model Y can go from 0 to 60 in 4.8 seconds, and has a citation link to a page that... doesn't even mention Tesla once.

I think you are just using regular bing. This is not the AI-ified version.

Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

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This is a potentially momentous occasion here. Microsoft is betting hard that they can mount a challenge to Google, and I think ChatGPT can credibly attempt that. The answer from Google so far is weak. The thought that Bing may actually overtake Google would be hilarious a few months ago, and now it looks... possible?

Yea i've never thought of using Bing. In fact i generally hate my Windows experience and vastly prefer Linux. Yet when this goes live i'll be there, trying it out, seeing how ChatGPT can integrate into my searches, answer questions, etc.

After all most Searches i execute are either direct questions or questions by proxy. I want to understand a specific function signature. I want to see the inputs, etc. This has been the area i've been most interested in for ChatGPT.

With that said it'll be interesting to see how it manages to merge the idea of searching with knowledge transfer. My searches are often proxies for questions, yes.. but almost always tailored for the Search Input. Ie i don't search with a question, i search with keywords tailored towards the search engine returning results that i suspect will lead me to an answer. Changing my Search Input might be a difficult task if it's necessary.

Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

#105

Interesting they chose Bing over Cortana.

Cortana only runs on Windows. With this, it will be in every browser eventually.

They are semi-retireing Cortana https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/changes-to-cortana...

Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Am I missing something? That link just shows the usual search results. Did they not roll this out in the EU yet or something?

You need to sign up. bing.com/new

Just redirects me to bing.com.

Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

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This is really interesting tech but I wonder how they are going to monetize this. Will it be traditional ads shown as results or would they be incorporated into the AI bots text? Like the "5-day trip to Mexico" prompt with the return being hotel stays and restaurants that fork up money to be included in the AI bots response.

Plain old ad auctions with placements above or beside the "organic" results would be the most honest. Using bids to somehow bias responses would be much worse Imo.

Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

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Wonder what the compute cost for this ends up being. My guess is they will have to somehow rate limit it - I’m sure the rollout speed will also depend how much people end up using it. Maybe they will figure out some ad revenue - but I don’t think they can charge users for this. Would love to know how much compute $ they’re willing to throw at this to attempt to topple Google. Probably whatever it takes (within reason…

Maybe searches just arent that unique and they will cache all but the long tail of answers

Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is anyone having success with the https://bing.com/new link? I'm not seeing it, but I'm not sure if that's because I'm on a Mac (via both Chrome and the OSX version of Edge)

Yes, it works here.

Which OS?

Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

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post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Am I missing something? That link just shows the usual search results. Did they not roll this out in the EU yet or something?

You need to sign up. bing.com/new

Dead link that redirects to bing.com
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