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Don't hijack threads. search. This has already previously been discussed:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34676043
Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI
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#42So much for "citing its work."
The answer I got here: https://www.bing.com/search?q=What%20cars%20should%20I%20con...
Says the Tesla Model Y can go from 0 to 60 in 4.8 seconds, and has a citation link to a page that... doesn't even mention Tesla once.
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#43If you haven’t realised yet, Microsoft Bing with ChatGPT is the last stage of the EEE phase ‘Extinguish’ after embracing and extending OpenAI, that will drive and undercut other competing services like Jasper.ai to zero and the best AI tools for free or close to free.
It will significantly affect smaller so-called AI companies like Jasper.ai than Google. But this announcement is unsurprising and as expected. [0]
I will reiterate again. The only way to disrupt OpenAI especially ChatGPT, is for an open source version of ChatGPT which is smaller and can run offline. This happened with Stable Diffusion towards DALLE-2.
A open source model that matches ChatGPT and even bests GPT-4 extinguishes the need to use OpenAI’s APIs and will change everything.
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#44Is the https://bing.com/new link working?
I'm not sure if it's not live yet or if I'm not seeing it because I'm checking from a Mac (via both Chrome and the OSX version of Edge)
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#45This is going to get spicy. I wonder what impact it will have on Google's monopoly.
Google is stepping out of the frying pan and into the fire. They foolishly derive 50+% of their income from search, where there is no longer a moat. The golden goose is cooked. Edit: It's quite possible that anyone will be able to enter this race right now and build LLM silos for their own domain. This cracks monolithic search wide open. GameFaqs becomes ChatGG, where you can ask, "How do I beat Ridley for the second…
But Google is also adding ChatGPT-like functionality? This seems like a pretty premature declaration.
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#46This is going to get spicy. I wonder what impact it will have on Google's monopoly.
Google is stepping out of the frying pan and into the fire. They foolishly derive 50+% of their income from search, where there is no longer a moat. The golden goose is cooked. Edit: It's quite possible that anyone will be able to enter this race right now and build LLM silos for their own domain. This cracks monolithic search wide open. GameFaqs becomes ChatGG, where you can ask, "How do I beat Ridley for the second…
Getting users to switch from an ingrained habit is hard. I wouldn't write things off so fast.
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#47Yesterday Google and now Microsoft both announcing their own chat bot integration and yet there is not a single link where I can try out either one of them.
What is this new trend of announcing things as if it's available for general use and then hiding it behind invites or not making it available at all.
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#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
Disclaimer - I work at Microsoft They put a lot of work into the research to make this safe already - they had the model red team itself, in a reinforcement learning environment probably. It won't be perfect, but at this point, they need a huge user base to adversarial test it any further. Otherwise no progress at all would be made. edit - I should say I have no internal knowledge about this.
Do you think MSFT has rolled this out too soon rather than getting it tested with huge test user base like their own employees similarly to what Google is doing?
No, I think to really get these battle tested it needs to be in everyone's hands. Microsoft is a limited selection of people, and the world is vast. Plus, internal people probably won't ask it as awful things or try as hard to break it - I doubt my coworkers would risk asking it super racist things for example. 4chan has no such restrictions, and over time what escapes or issues people do find can be mitigated.
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#49This is going to get spicy. I wonder what impact it will have on Google's monopoly.
Google is stepping out of the frying pan and into the fire. They foolishly derive 50+% of their income from search, where there is no longer a moat. The golden goose is cooked. Edit: It's quite possible that anyone will be able to enter this race right now and build LLM silos for their own domain. This cracks monolithic search wide open. GameFaqs becomes ChatGG, where you can ask, "How do I beat Ridley for the second…
Too early to say. Microsoft has to execute well, as a first-mover, while Google has to fail to execute. This could easily blow up in Microsoft's face (infrastructure failure or safety/correctness issues), or Google could put out a peer product and win simply due to existing momentum in search.
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#50Most interesting tidbits: 1 - Sam Altman onstage all but confirmed the underlying LLM model as GPT-4 as he kept saying "next gen" without providing a name 2 - Microsoft is all-in by making this front-and-center of Bing, as well as deep integration into Edge browser I'm most curious about how Microsoft is planning to pay for the infrastructure cost of serving the traffic.
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