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Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

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Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

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This is undeniably cool and impressive, but, I think proceeding down this research path, at this pace, is quite irresponsible. The primary effect of OpenAI's work has been to set off an arms race, and the effect of that is that humanity no longer has the ability to make decisions about how fast and how far to go with AGI development. Obviously this isn't a system that's going to recursively self-improve and wipe out…

Disclaimer - I work at Microsoft They put a lot of work into the research to make this safe already - they had the model red team itself, in a reinforcement learning environment probably. It won't be perfect, but at this point, they need a huge user base to adversarial test it any further. Otherwise no progress at all would be made. edit - I should say I have no internal knowledge about this.

Do you think MSFT has rolled this out too soon rather than getting it tested with huge test user base like their own employees similarly to what Google is doing?

Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

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Most interesting tidbits: 1 - Sam Altman onstage all but confirmed the underlying LLM model as GPT-4 as he kept saying "next gen" without providing a name 2 - Microsoft is all-in by making this front-and-center of Bing, as well as deep integration into Edge browser I'm most curious about how Microsoft is planning to pay for the infrastructure cost of serving the traffic.

Its goal is to kill Google + Chrome i think. Profit comes later ?

Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

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Most interesting tidbits: 1 - Sam Altman onstage all but confirmed the underlying LLM model as GPT-4 as he kept saying "next gen" without providing a name 2 - Microsoft is all-in by making this front-and-center of Bing, as well as deep integration into Edge browser I'm most curious about how Microsoft is planning to pay for the infrastructure cost of serving the traffic.

With cash on hand and gained market share parlayed into ads and more cash likely

Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

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From the Verge's liveblogging ( https://www.theverge.com/2023/2/7/23588249/microsoft-event-a... ) "This is an important part of the presentation, but I just want to note that Microsoft is having to carefully explain how its new search engine will be prevented from helping to plan school shootings. "Early red teaming showed that the model could help plan attacks" on things like schools. "We don't want to aid in illega…

Whatever. The entire internet can be used for "malicious use" This is cool tech, and right now it just needs to get out.

I agree, and the argument OP is making sounds similar to book banning - let's ban the Anarchist's Cookbook so people won't be terrorists isn't actually sound logic.

Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

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I think we all here at HN will inevitably underestimate the impact of putting GPT into Bing. We may have been playing with GPT for years, but it has just been gift-wrapped and delivered to hundreds of millions in their default Windows browser. I’m expecting it to blow grandma’s mind.

I've heard there are already 100M of ChatGPT users. The hype has been strong.

I heard yesterday that it had "grown to 200 million users in 2 months"

Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

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The Edge integration announced today also looks very impressive. I chuckled at the thought that MS is probably about to make a daily Edge user out of me and a lot of other people, but of course Edge is Chrome under the hood now. So Google beat MS to browser market dominance, and now MS is using their browser as a platform to go after Google's core business. Neat.

I think this tech is going to be transformative for everyone in a positive way. I've been doing a lot of bookkeeping and form-filling-out the past couple weeks and I keep thinking, wow, I wish I could just explain to ChatGPT what I need copied and pasted from one document to another or what needs to be filled out.

Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

#39

This is undeniably cool and impressive, but, I think proceeding down this research path, at this pace, is quite irresponsible. The primary effect of OpenAI's work has been to set off an arms race, and the effect of that is that humanity no longer has the ability to make decisions about how fast and how far to go with AGI development. Obviously this isn't a system that's going to recursively self-improve and wipe out…

Disclaimer - I work at Microsoft They put a lot of work into the research to make this safe already - they had the model red team itself, in a reinforcement learning environment probably. It won't be perfect, but at this point, they need a huge user base to adversarial test it any further. Otherwise no progress at all would be made. edit - I should say I have no internal knowledge about this.

And that research is valuable, but it's definitely nowhere near the point where safety/alignment progress can't be made without a user base. A few recent favorites of mine: https://arxiv.org/pdf/2212.03827.pdf https://www.alignmentforum.org/posts/aPeJE8bSo6rAFoLqg/solid...

Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

#40

The Edge integration announced today also looks very impressive. I chuckled at the thought that MS is probably about to make a daily Edge user out of me and a lot of other people, but of course Edge is Chrome under the hood now. So Google beat MS to browser market dominance, and now MS is using their browser as a platform to go after Google's core business. Neat. I think this tech is going to be transformative for ev…

Edge is genuinely very very good. It does have some dev tool problems that I've run into, but for browser it's top notch.
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