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We come to bury ChatGPT, not to praise it

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Re: We come to bury ChatGPT, not to praise it

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It has lots of value. But it's not the AI it pretends to be. Mostly because we and it can't always tell what's fact or fiction and it has 0 cognition. It's up to us to figure out where it can add value. It's way too early to announce its death. It's a super charged Cliff Clavin. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cliff_Clavin

The Cliff comparison is a good one in that it very confident declares its every answer was though it is well-founded fact.

Re: We come to bury ChatGPT, not to praise it

#92

I found the article really difficult to read, so I summarised it with ChatGPT Large language models like the GPT family are statistical models that learn the structure of language by predicting missing words in sentences. These models are seen as "bullshit generators" as they have no idea what they are talking about and are designed to produce baseless assertions with confidence. The addition of reinforcement learnin…

This is not even a correct summary of the content of the post. I'm genuinely entertained by the sheer amount of shamelessness demonstrated here. Seriously, though, technology at wrong hands endorses bad behaviors.

Re: We come to bury ChatGPT, not to praise it

#93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not always on the first time, but when there's a problem I don't need somebody else to intervene and make it work for me.

I've seen at least one demonstration where the user re-fed problematic generated text into chat-GPT and successfully asked it to find the problem.

I'm sorry, who did you say re-fed problematic generated text into chat-GPT and successfully asked it to find the problem?

Re: We come to bury ChatGPT, not to praise it

#94

I found the article really difficult to read, so I summarised it with ChatGPT Large language models like the GPT family are statistical models that learn the structure of language by predicting missing words in sentences. These models are seen as "bullshit generators" as they have no idea what they are talking about and are designed to produce baseless assertions with confidence. The addition of reinforcement learnin…

I’m not sure why we need comments from people proud that they couldn’t be troubled to read the article that is supposedly being discussed, but it seems like a popular genre of reply whenever something tech-critical is posted.

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Re: We come to bury ChatGPT, not to praise it

#96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you mean that you can build software 10-20x faster, or that you can literally write code 10-20x faster? I find it very hard to believe you can build software 10-20x faster with GPT, since the majority of building software isn't writing code. I'm also curious what you're programming that can be completely offloaded to GPT.

Posted elsewhere, but this is what I suspect is happening. Folks that are primarily slapping together a lot of code are benefitting from ChatGPT. It's pretty useless for the other stuff except maybe boilerplate stuff for a design doc.

There's no language or coding environment that doesn't involve some level of boilerplate or repetition.

Re: We come to bury ChatGPT, not to praise it

#97

On a slight tangent from the core topic.. > we are all 'stochastic parrots' like large language models, statistical generators of learned patterns that express nothing deeper, is a form of nihilism to mean: “life is meaningless. (period)”. When in fact, it really means: “life is meaningless… (you fill the dots for yourself)”. Humans created the concepts of law and order, and the rules of society. Everything is man ma…

we're not stochastic parrots, we're reinforcement learning systems. we're motivated by pain and pleasure. we create plans to avoid pain and achieve pleasure. we guide our own learning.

that's the reason AlphaZero can become superhuman at Go, while ChatGPT can't even play. it makes me wonder if OpenAI has abandoned RL because it's too hard, and they're trying to move the AGI goalposts to these giant unsupervised models.

Re: We come to bury ChatGPT, not to praise it

#99

Here's the thing... so many jobs are bullshit. So many things people are paid to write, presentations made, etc. are bullshit. I'm not judging the bullshit per se. There's good bullshit and bad, necessary bullshit and not. But yeah, when you accept this reality, AI is sort of perfect for the bullshit that exists in our lives.

I’m sorry, but once you type the line ‘There's good bullshit and bad, necessary bullshit and not’ you are no longer saying anything meaningful or enlightening. Words are not supposed to be bullshit. That’s the general issue with this take.

Re: We come to bury ChatGPT, not to praise it

#100

I found the article really difficult to read, so I summarised it with ChatGPT Large language models like the GPT family are statistical models that learn the structure of language by predicting missing words in sentences. These models are seen as "bullshit generators" as they have no idea what they are talking about and are designed to produce baseless assertions with confidence. The addition of reinforcement learnin…

I’m not sure why we need comments from people proud that they couldn’t be troubled to read the article that is supposedly being discussed, but it seems like a popular genre of reply whenever something tech-critical is posted.

I tried to read the article too and found it both visually unpleasant and intellectually unfocused. GP is making the rather comically clever point that ChatGPT is useful to summarize text that might be difficult for humans to parse, even a text claiming that ChatGPT is a useless model only capable of spewing Islamophobic speech and in need of burying. I mean the article ends on some tangent about reactionary solutionism... If you don't see the satire in that, well, you might be taking life too seriously.
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