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Re: Bard and new AI features in Search

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enneff wrote: post #121
dougmwne wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is nothing concrete available today because Google is scrambling to get ahead of a major announcement from Microsoft on integrating GPT into Bing. Internal sources from MS are saying it might be the first we see of GPT-4.

Why do you say google is scrambling when they have been working on AI stuff just as impressive as OpenAI, which you could spin differently to say Microsoft “scrambled” to make a partnership with and are now attempting to cram GPT into their tech stack. FWIW I don’t think either company are really scrambling except in the performative sense of making announcements to appease the market.

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Re: Bard and new AI features in Search

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Post by xiphias2 »

chipgap98 wrote: post #117
ignite wrote: post #98

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I certainly didn't kill Microsoft, but it's tens of billions of dollars they didn't get. It's significant, even at Microsoft's scale.

There is also opportunity cost though. Maybe if they succeeded in mobile then they would have missed Teams. Its hard to say that the side effects from missing that wave were exclusively negative.

Quite the opposite. If they have owned mobile + desktop, they could have a much stronger integration, and we wouldn't be Google first with our apps.

Re: Bard and new AI features in Search

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Post by giarc »

neosat wrote: post #13

The blog post is an example of why when you go through a number of edits and additions from various internal groups, marketing, legal, compliance etc. you end up with a message that's a lot of words but not a lot of information for any key audience. I went through the article 3 times thinking I missed the link to try out Bard, get some sense of timeline, roll-out plan...nothing. Come on Google...

"making it more widely available to the public in the coming weeks."

Re: Bard and new AI features in Search

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Post by yegle »

aftergibson wrote: post #37

Smacks of dropping the ball and not being first mover and trying to damage control. All big orgs eventually become the slow mover, it's re-assuring that Google is in the same boat and nothing really changes.

But Google's chat bot was smart enough to make people think (fool people to think?) that the AI is sentient back in Jun 2022, months before ChatGPT. Saying that Google is a slow mover is not exactly true.

Disclaimer: Google engineer but has nothing to do with the AI products.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/06/11/google-...

Re: Bard and new AI features in Search

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Post by anthropodie »

andrewstuart wrote: post #60

Lotus 123, Borland and Wordperfect were at the top of the software world. They failed to make the transition to GUIs/Windows. Microsoft missed the arrival of the web. Microsoft also missed the mobile revolution and ended up with zero mobile operating system market share. Internet Explorer, having vanquished Netscape, declared "job done" and stopped developing the web browser further, only to be cast to irrelevance fo…

You forgot Nokia. They had touch screen prototype before Iphone but they thought world was not ready. When Android came they took too long to admit S60 is dead.

Re: Bard and new AI features in Search

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Post by bnralt »

jjeaff wrote: post #149
CabSauce wrote: post #30

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That's good for users, potentially. But not good for the sites where google is sourcing the information.

Potentially good for users initially. But I can't see how anyone will be incentivized to create and post content for Google to scrape if they won't have any traffic from Google. It could actually be a huge benefit in some ways if it chokes out the content mills. However, something tells me that they have little to no overhead compared to the people who actually toil away to post good, original content.

> But I can't see how anyone will be incentivized to create and post content for Google to scrape if they won't have any traffic from Google.

The problem right now is that the incentives have caused most of the output online to be garbage.

Re: Bard and new AI features in Search

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Post by eachro »

enumjorge wrote: post #25

> And today, we’re [...] opening it up to trusted testers ahead of making it more widely available to the public in the coming weeks. It feels like a mistake to make the big announcement for this, but not open it up to a wide audience. It's not like ChatGPT hasn't been out for months now. Not sure how much they gain by making headlines before it's ready for people to play with it.

Those trusted tester will likely be their RLHF part of the pipeline.

Re: Bard and new AI features in Search

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Post by neffy »

ignite wrote: post #98
wilsonnb3 wrote: post #72

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Google was already next when they missed the social media boat. That said, Microsoft is still the second most valuable company in the world a decade after missing out on mobile, so it doesn't really seem like a big deal.

I certainly didn't kill Microsoft, but it's tens of billions of dollars they didn't get. It's significant, even at Microsoft's scale.

And this is Google's core business. Nothing came along yet that replaced corporate use of microsoft office, and that is were they make most of their money.
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