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Re: Bard and new AI features in Search

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It worked for gmail. Maybe some people are too young to remember it was invite-only for years.

That's because there was no competition and they were the first movers.

Coincidentally also why ChatGPT won.

Re: Bard and new AI features in Search

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> And today, we’re [...] opening it up to trusted testers ahead of making it more widely available to the public in the coming weeks. It feels like a mistake to make the big announcement for this, but not open it up to a wide audience. It's not like ChatGPT hasn't been out for months now. Not sure how much they gain by making headlines before it's ready for people to play with it.

Same way they shot themselves in the foot with g+. Maybe they know being top of web search and email is already a wide enough vertical and offering a dystopian chat AI so soon would be too disruptive for them and get too much attention.

Re: Bard and new AI features in Search

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The blog post is an example of why when you go through a number of edits and additions from various internal groups, marketing, legal, compliance etc. you end up with a message that's a lot of words but not a lot of information for any key audience. I went through the article 3 times thinking I missed the link to try out Bard, get some sense of timeline, roll-out plan...nothing. Come on Google...

It seems like a very reactionary move. ChatGPT went viral, and now they have to rush something to market to try and compete. So of course the product doesn't exist yet, but they've had enough time to put together a project plan and some mockups. It's not a great position to be in.

I don't think so. Google has had its own internal LLMs for quite some time now. Some of them are even more powerful than GPT 3.5. The only question has been: "Why release it to the public?"

Re: Bard and new AI features in Search

#105

Lotus 123, Borland and Wordperfect were at the top of the software world. They failed to make the transition to GUIs/Windows. Microsoft missed the arrival of the web. Microsoft also missed the mobile revolution and ended up with zero mobile operating system market share. Internet Explorer, having vanquished Netscape, declared "job done" and stopped developing the web browser further, only to be cast to irrelevance fo…

Microsoft feels like an outlier on this list. They are thriving right now.

Also, there are still many categories of things that ChatGPT-like bots can't help with yet, such as shopping. I think we're still very early in this cycle. That doesn't mean Google will succeed, but it feels premature to be writing their obituary.

Re: Bard and new AI features in Search

#106

Time will tell (a few weeks, according to the article) if it's any good, as that's when it will be released to the public. However, an interesting piece of info was > It draws on information from the web to provide fresh, high-quality responses. which seems like it will possibly be able to use some kind of external repository of information, instead of needing to be retrained? Very curious about that.

Perplexity.ai processes Bing search results through GPT-3. It works really well, and you can see the prompt they use at https://blog.ouseful.info/2022/12/09/combing-chatgpt-and-sea...

Re: Bard and new AI features in Search

#107

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It seems like a very reactionary move. ChatGPT went viral, and now they have to rush something to market to try and compete. So of course the product doesn't exist yet, but they've had enough time to put together a project plan and some mockups. It's not a great position to be in.

i don't think anybody knows how to monetize it. really it's kinda a public service, maybe these models should be run that way?

Monetization seems pretty straight forward.

User: What is the most durable shoe?

AI: Some of the most durable shoes are ... Here are some affiliate links where you can buy these durable shoes...

Re: Bard and new AI features in Search

#110

People are complaining that it's not available yet. I'd guess they have something that could be pretty useful right now. But they need to make sure it doesn't cause them embarrassment by saying racist/sexist/etc things.

If that's the problem, they're not going to fix that in a few weeks.

More likely this is being done since you can't capacity plan at all until you see how real users actually interact with the service.

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