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Re: Bard and new AI features in Search

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Post by nlh »

enumjorge wrote: post #25

> And today, we’re [...] opening it up to trusted testers ahead of making it more widely available to the public in the coming weeks. It feels like a mistake to make the big announcement for this, but not open it up to a wide audience. It's not like ChatGPT hasn't been out for months now. Not sure how much they gain by making headlines before it's ready for people to play with it.

Was thinking the same. My hunch is that their PR department thinks this will "create a buzz" much like the old waiting list for Gmail.

But that feels like slow old thinking. The way you create a buzz these days (in the era of limited attention) is by releasing a kick-ass product for people to use and play with. I'll probably forget about Bard the second I hit submit on this comment and go right back to using ChatGPT.

Re: Bard and new AI features in Search

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Post by blobbers »

neosat wrote: post #13

The blog post is an example of why when you go through a number of edits and additions from various internal groups, marketing, legal, compliance etc. you end up with a message that's a lot of words but not a lot of information for any key audience. I went through the article 3 times thinking I missed the link to try out Bard, get some sense of timeline, roll-out plan...nothing. Come on Google...

Still can't find the link.

Re: Bard and new AI features in Search

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Post by toddmorey »

alexb_ wrote: post #9

>AI can be helpful in these moments, synthesizing insights for questions where there’s no one right answer. Soon, you’ll see AI-powered features in Search that distill complex information and multiple perspectives into easy-to-digest formats, so you can quickly understand the big picture and learn more from the web: whether that’s seeking out additional perspectives, like blogs from people who play both piano and gui…

The skeptic in me can’t help but think this experience has been designed to keep more people on Google properties longer. It feels parasitic.

Re: Bard and new AI features in Search

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Post by londons_explore »

doctoboggan wrote: post #22

> We’re releasing it initially with our lightweight model version of LaMDA. This much smaller model requires significantly less computing power, enabling us to scale to more users, allowing for more feedback. Seems odd to release something worse than the competition. Is there a reason why google wouldn't just come out with the best the have? Are they afraid this will eat into their ad revenue if people no longer need…

Google has so many users that not even they have enough GPU's and TPU's to service them all.

I personally think they should use their best models, and just make it trigger very rarely. For example, only ~once per week per user (ie. 0.3% of queries).

Use a tiny model over the input query to decide if LaMBDA will do a far better job than regular search results, and only trigger in those cases where it will most benefit the user to begin with.

Re: Bard and new AI features in Search

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Post by dizzydes »

> Soon, you’ll see AI-powered features in Search

Despite this blog obviously being written for Wall St, this line is key. This is why anyone is going to struggle to compete with Google in AI.

Google Search is used so widely and its taxonomy of meaning so vast already that once they flip this on they’ll be unstoppable. (Assuming any rate of improvement whatsoever as we search.)

I’m not mentioning all other learning data like email, photos and drive, in part because other companies have similar, albeit in more specialised forms.

Re: Bard and new AI features in Search

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Post by cma »

doctoboggan wrote: post #22

> We’re releasing it initially with our lightweight model version of LaMDA. This much smaller model requires significantly less computing power, enabling us to scale to more users, allowing for more feedback. Seems odd to release something worse than the competition. Is there a reason why google wouldn't just come out with the best the have? Are they afraid this will eat into their ad revenue if people no longer need…

Same reason Gmail/Gdrive wouldn't give everyone 100TB for free if a startup came out that did.

Re: Bard and new AI features in Search

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Post by dougmwne »

This is a milestone. Google has been keeping the fruits of its AI research locked away from the unwashed masses. They did not seem to be on any path to commercialization, Google Cloud access, or releasing features based on these models. OpenAI (and Microsoft most likely) forced their hand and all at once they are releasing tech-previews and talking about adding it to the search engine results page, all while opening up API access to several of their trained models.

Microsoft is rumored to be adding GPT powered features to Bing very soon and might beat Google to market.

Very interesting times!

Re: Bard and new AI features in Search

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Post by MrGilbert »

neosat wrote: post #13

The blog post is an example of why when you go through a number of edits and additions from various internal groups, marketing, legal, compliance etc. you end up with a message that's a lot of words but not a lot of information for any key audience. I went through the article 3 times thinking I missed the link to try out Bard, get some sense of timeline, roll-out plan...nothing. Come on Google...

Maybe the Bard announcement was written by Bard?
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