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Re: Ask HN: Concise, pragmatic baby manual for first-time dad?

#61
5 kids here. The reason they are all fluff is that there isn't that much to it. It's just a lot of work.

(1) Feed baby.

(2) Change baby.

(3) Clothe and bathe baby.

(4) Baby needs sleep.

(5) Transport baby.

(6) Troubleshooting

"Feed baby" typically boils down to breastfeeding or formula only. Breastfeeding is a whole field unto itself. But for formula, get some bottles and some formula, and follow the directions on the formula container.

"Clothe baby" - get some baby outfits, keep them clean. Give the baby a bath with a sponge and baby shampoo when the baby seems dirty. Get new outfits as they grow out of them.

"Change baby" means get some diapers, wipes, and diaper cream. Put the diaper on, flaps out, and change it when it's soiled. Use the cream if they have diaper rash.

"Baby needs sleep" - get some baby swaddlers that let you tie their arms up (ideally velcro). Follow the directions, and put the baby on their back on a flat dry surface in a bassinet or crib to sleep. When they are newborn, they sleep frequently. Listen for when the baby wakes up.

"Transport baby" - get a car seat and use it according to the directions.

"Troubleshooting" - our pediatrician gave us a little pamphlet that covers everything health wise (i.e., call them when fever exceeds x or if y or z occur) - I've heard that most pediatricians do. Other than health issues, mostly the issue is the baby crying or not sleeping. When those things happen, just google it and try things until something works. Pacifiers are great for some babies for both crying and sleeping, others not so much.

Newborns mostly just sleep and eat. Older babies sleep, eat, and get bored. Older still, they sleep, eat, and play/crawl. Soon thereafter you have a toddler.

Re: Ask HN: Concise, pragmatic baby manual for first-time dad?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hear you, but I wonder if like in most fields, there are some basic truths that can be relied upon, but that total "juniors" will be ignorant of.

I agree with commenter that there's a good reason general advice doesn't exist. I have some tips for the first couple of months that I collected in an iOS note after the second kid, but they're all little practical things that are pretty personal and make me sound like a crazy person, which to me proves the point. Baby tips - have some of the next size diaper around so you can try it earlier instead of making the kid…

> - precut a bunch of little rectangles of paper towel for butt cream application

Just use your fingers and then wash your hands.

> - pump and use a bottle or just use formula if the baby is having a hard time eating in the first week, don’t let the breast dogmatists scare you

Agreed.

> - keep a box of gloves near the changing table. rather than leaving someone watching them on the table to wash your hands, just take off the gloves

Way too much work IMO, and if you have more than one, they will spread those gloves all over the house.

> - changing table in your bedroom (we didn’t do this the first time)

Just change them on the bed. We used to use a changing pad on the bed, but once you get good at it, you can change them so fast and with zero mess so we don't even need the pad any more.

> - try to avoid having too many visitors in the hospital. you need to sleep or at least rest instead. we had both our families visiting the first time and it was so much worse than covid-era visitation

Great advice. Our COVID-era baby was super peaceful, so we just did a "no visitors" policy for our more recent baby. Absent complications, you're only there for a day or two, they can wait.

> - they like to be swaddled much tighter than you think you should

> - bring velcro swaddle blanket to the hospital

Excellent advice and I often say the same about swaddlers. They are key.

Re: Ask HN: Concise, pragmatic baby manual for first-time dad?

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post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree with commenter that there's a good reason general advice doesn't exist. I have some tips for the first couple of months that I collected in an iOS note after the second kid, but they're all little practical things that are pretty personal and make me sound like a crazy person, which to me proves the point. Baby tips - have some of the next size diaper around so you can try it earlier instead of making the kid…

I don't agree with your advice about Tylenol, it has zero medical benefit. Lowering fevers is not necessary in any way, does not protect, it does not help heal, the best you could say is maybe it makes a baby (and child) a bit more comfortable. But in exchange the illness lasts a little bit longer. And this is not my personal opinion, this is what the best available studies say: fever reducers have no medical value.

It’s more about helping them sleep and stop crying.

Re: Ask HN: Concise, pragmatic baby manual for first-time dad?

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post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree with commenter that there's a good reason general advice doesn't exist. I have some tips for the first couple of months that I collected in an iOS note after the second kid, but they're all little practical things that are pretty personal and make me sound like a crazy person, which to me proves the point. Baby tips - have some of the next size diaper around so you can try it earlier instead of making the kid…

> - precut a bunch of little rectangles of paper towel for butt cream application Just use your fingers and then wash your hands. > - pump and use a bottle or just use formula if the baby is having a hard time eating in the first week, don’t let the breast dogmatists scare you Agreed. > - keep a box of gloves near the changing table. rather than leaving someone watching them on the table to wash your hands, just take…

You’re right about the gloves, I didn’t end up doing that one much. For the cream, I found washing thick oily cream off your fingers multiple times a day is a real pain.

Re: Ask HN: Concise, pragmatic baby manual for first-time dad?

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I wrote a different comment about my experiences with miscarriages, and how experiencing that lead me to understand something:

You are already a father. You are already a parent, even though the baby has not been born. You're already at the deep-end, even if you are not yet directly involved in the care of the baby growing in your wife's womb.

It's from this perspective, I offer this:

1. Being "data-driven", while helpful, is not complete. Raising your child is not a mission. You cannot push buttons and expect results to follow, or define objectives, and then somehow expect your child to also go along with it. They will grow with or without you, and are most vulnerable in the early stages of life. If you have ever grown a plant, it is more like that -- no matter what kind of ideal conditions you can create for the plant or child, ultimately, the power of growth does not lie within you. It lies within what you are nurturing.

2. You're going to have to sacrifice your time, energy, and sleep. There are going to be other missions you might go after ... and you're going to have to sacrifice some of them.

3. Accept all the help from family, friends, and community that you can get.

4. There are defined milestones, and they start before birth.

5. The first major milestone is viability. That's when, if the fetus is born prematurely, it has a chance of surviving in the NICU.

6. Minor milestones are the organ scan (to check if there are any severe deformities in the developing organ, also affecting viability), and the glucose test -- for gestational diabetes, and preeclampsia, which can potentially not only affect the child's health, but also your wife's.

7. Labor and birth, and recovery for your wife

8. You cannot directly impact anything for 5 - 7. Your best course of action is to support your wife

9. Watch out for post-partum depression in your wife.

What follows after are:

1. Development of the blood brain barrier.

2. Development of the immune system

3. Watching out for Sudden Infant Death syndrome in the first months (or year?) There are some advances in understanding this, but right now, unfortunately, this is mostly luck.

4. Being able to roll from back to front, and front to back. That allows the infant to be able to adjust posture without suffocating

5. Being able to hold the head steady. Until then, you have to make sure you are supporting the child's head yourself.

A good pediatrician or family nurse practitioner will remind you of all of this during the checkups. Checkups happen more frequently at the early age and get less frequent as the child grows.

Immunization matters a lot. When the child starts going to child care or school, that will start a cycle of the whole family (including parents) getting sick, even with immunization. Fall of 2022, we saw an epidemic of RSV, Flu, and Covid among families with small children.

The rest goes on with physical, mental and social development. They don't go in any specific order. Sometimes, children are mildly delayed in some things and not in others, and sometimes the delay is symptomatic of say, Autism Spectrum Disorder (which is currently diagnosed in 1 in 44 children now). This can get fairly complicated, but there are usually state services that help families with this.

Lastly, my wife is connected to support groups online for moms. There's a Facebook group involving tens of thousands of members that, smaller subgroups break off for that. If there's a similar one for dads, I suggest joining it.

Re: Ask HN: Concise, pragmatic baby manual for first-time dad?

#67

Keep 'em clean, keep 'em fed, keep 'em near you (they can wander father as they age), do your best. That pretty much sums up all the advice, I think. Good luck, kids are fun. edit: You have time to get a puppy, now; and learn to deal with all the shit on easy mode. When the baby happens the puppy will be the perfect age to be an actual help watching the baby, and help raise the kid.

> Keep 'em clean, keep 'em fed, keep 'em near you (they can wander father as they age), do your best.

> That pretty much sums up all the advice, I think. Good luck, kids are fun.

Agreed.

> edit: You have time to get a puppy, now; and learn to deal with all the shit on easy mode. When the baby happens the puppy will be the perfect age to be an actual help watching the baby, and help raise the kid.

What is this insanity? Don't do this. I love dogs, but a young dog + a baby is a recipe for disaster. They do not help raise babies.

We did something similar for our second-to-last baby, mostly because our previous dog died and we wanted to decrease the chances that the new baby would be allergic. But a dog generally just fights for your attention (increasing your stress) and, worse, will wake the baby up occasionally if the dog is one that barks at visitors.

Re: Ask HN: Concise, pragmatic baby manual for first-time dad?

#68
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Hey, OP! I just had a second child. First: congratulations, you have no idea how much you are going to love kids. They *will* change your life. Things you used to think were meaningful are going to seem meaningless to you. Here are some notes on "gear": 1) Get a really nice headlamp that can do a candle mode. This is going to be really helpful at 2:00am when you need to see where diapers are. 2) Get multiple bassinet…

> 1) Get a really nice headlamp that can do a candle mode. This is going to be really helpful at 2:00am when you need to see where diapers are.

I absolutely love the Apple Watch's flashlight feature for this—even more so on the new one that has a dedicated physical button for it. It's insanely convenient for all nighttime child issues.

Re: Ask HN: Concise, pragmatic baby manual for first-time dad?

#69

The book you are looking for is too simple to sell. What you need to do: Mom says, “Will you…?” You say, “Yes of course.” When you need to do it: Always and forever. Why it is important: The new human being requires a mother. The new human being is priority one. Mom is priority two. You are priority three. Unless you have a dog. Good luck.

This is bad advice. Parents are real people and need to work in balance with each other and the child. Sacrificing yourself only breeds resentment.

Honestly I disagree that it's bad advice. The advice I give to a lot of new dads specifically is that Moms #1 job is to take care of baby, Dads #1 job is to take care of mom AND baby. Even if the little one is formula fed, the weeks/months after childbirth are so difficult for mothers. Sacrificing yourself a bit, in my opinion, IS balancing the work.

As time goes on and you have a toddler, things even out significantly.

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