If you click through to the mirror from the /r/livestreamfail page, the clip actually comes across (to me) as making fun of the people who make those kinds of jokes.
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AI Generated Seinfeld banned on Twitch for transphobic jokes
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Re: AI Generated Seinfeld banned on Twitch for transphobic jokes
#232Earlier quoted context omitted.
Should platforms be able to decide for themselves, or should people be forced to work on content they find offensive?
Nobody is forced to work on anything. If you choose to work for a public platform, that should not automatically grant you authority to dictate what goes on it based on your own sensibilities.
What? Are saying that the management at a public platform has an obligation to ignore what their employees want? That doesn’t sound great for retention. Or culture in general.
Re: AI Generated Seinfeld banned on Twitch for transphobic jokes
#233Good opportunity for someone like tiktok to jump in and host the stream
Unfortunately tiktok TOS is violated by saying things like "cigarette", "dead", "vagina", or "gun".
Re: AI Generated Seinfeld banned on Twitch for transphobic jokes
#234Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is a great analogy! $ seq -w 9999999
Isn't the purpose of machine learning to learn something, not nothing/randomness?
The point is that whether it's an RNG or language model or just a program printing a list of numbers like I posted, it's just a state machine spitting stuff out, it has no intention. So it's not really productive to get mad at it just because it produced something you don't like. The language model is spitting out random stuff based on the representation it has learned. It doesn't know what it means, nobody is making any kind of value judgement that results in it saying stuff, so why get offended by it?
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Because if our adversaries are the products of inanimate and unthinking evolution, we cannot regard the problem in terms of revenge or payback... that would be no different than whipping the ocean for having sunk a ship and drowned its sailors
- Stanislaw Lem, The InvincibleRe: AI Generated Seinfeld banned on Twitch for transphobic jokes
#235Uncharacteristically off-topic comment from me, I guess, but when do humans get to a point where we no longer have to appeal to the lowest common denominator? How are our relationships supposed to improve if we dub anything that makes us uncomfortable as "taboo" and steer clear of it? I get that on the Internet there is a lot of anonymity (though less than there used to be) that folks tend to abuse, but at the same t…
sometimes you can't have nice things because there are people who will abuse them. there are actual Nazis out there who want to put people in ovens, so it's taboo to make jokes about how they may have a point. similar thing with trans people, you mention them and trolls come out of the woodwork saying they should kill themselves. there are a lot of horrible people and trollish behaviors online, and sometimes the only…
Let us not forget certain fascists who claimed they’d outlaw all trans people and force them to detransition.
Let us not forget how many trans people have died at the hands of bigots.
Re: AI Generated Seinfeld banned on Twitch for transphobic jokes
#236This was honestly the funniest content, the most laughs I'd had in years. This ban is truly disheartening to me.
I was absolutely hooked. Shit was funny as hell. Hopefully they can get it sorted out sooner than two weeks... unfortunately Twitch doesn't really have much in the way of consistency and discretion when it comes to bans.
Re: AI Generated Seinfeld banned on Twitch for transphobic jokes
#237As many people here noticed, the bit has actually nothing to do with transphobia, or gay, but it's about a comedian bombing a show with horrible jokes. What's interesting in this case, is that there can be no "background check". Or "this guy has actually had weird quotes in the past, he's very suspicious". Or "he has republican friends"... All the regular strategy activist use to demolish a public figure over a prete…
It’s not “about” anything, it’s just nonsense generated by a computer program. Any meaning you find in it is pareidolia.
Re: AI Generated Seinfeld banned on Twitch for transphobic jokes
#238Earlier quoted context omitted.
The topic is taboo. I cannot be freely discussed on these platforms regardless of the position taken.
The topic isn't taboo, but making fun of people is. Be nice to other people and suddenly you don't get canceled or whatever you're afraid will happen.
Uh, I'm pretty sure making fun of people isn't taboo.
Re: AI Generated Seinfeld banned on Twitch for transphobic jokes
#239Earlier quoted context omitted.
The delivery is so bad, you could take it either way. However, censoring a sentence like "thinking about making a joke about how transgender people are ruining the fabric of society" is very thought-police. In itself, it says nothing, and certainly cannot be seen as hate speech.
That have never mattered to the mob. Anyone who questions this new religion must be silenced.
I don’t really see a mob on this one. Twitch has a platform policy that they enforced - probably a little too heavily here. Is there some sort of community outcry elsewhere?
I think most people who understand the context of the clip (AI-generated Seinfeld) — even if, like me, their hackles rise at any kind of possibly-transphobic material - would think this was pretty tame/kinda funny.
Re: AI Generated Seinfeld banned on Twitch for transphobic jokes
#240As many people here noticed, the bit has actually nothing to do with transphobia, or gay, but it's about a comedian bombing a show with horrible jokes. What's interesting in this case, is that there can be no "background check". Or "this guy has actually had weird quotes in the past, he's very suspicious". Or "he has republican friends"... All the regular strategy activist use to demolish a public figure over a prete…
> This time it's just pure AI, and as such pure stupidity from the censor.
The developer confirmed that inappropriate content was generated when they switched language models, so the moderation process worked fine.