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AI Generated Seinfeld banned on Twitch for transphobic jokes

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Re: AI Generated Seinfeld banned on Twitch for transphobic jokes

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Post by version_five »

causi wrote: post #146
anononaut wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I challenge your interpretation of a joke generator making a joke as "drastic consequences." Twitch has arcane rules about what can be streamed. As a streamer you have to tip-toe around topics (or jokes) regarding specific protected classes. This is a matter of arbitrary lines in the sand.

Am I wrong in thinking that getting your feelings hurt by an AI making an offensive joke is the equivalent of thinking you've been doxxed when a random number generator spits out your phone number?

This is a great analogy!

  $ seq -w 9999999

Re: AI Generated Seinfeld banned on Twitch for transphobic jokes

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Post by msm_ »

Cthulhu_ wrote: post #133
pirate787 wrote: post #112

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Artists are what we call the people who push against the boundaries of majority group-speak and government mandated thinking.

Which is cool and all, great for a democracy etc, but it gets people killed as well if you cross the line with the wrong people [0]. I mean killing is wrong, but so is being a dick. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Hebdo_shooting

> I mean killing is wrong, but so is being a dick.

I don't really understand the point you're making. Killing is orders of magnitude more wrong thank "being a dick" (meaning: making an offsensive or bad joke). I'm sure you agree, so I don't see what's the goal of this comparison.

And I think that using Charlie Hebdo in this context is a bad taste. Saying "see, it got people killed, so they were doing something wrong" is basically acknowledging that terrorism works. People that died in Charlie Hebdo did nothing to deserve this.

Re: AI Generated Seinfeld banned on Twitch for transphobic jokes

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Post by klyrs »

xwkd wrote: post #97
sys32768 wrote: post #20

So comedy cannot be offensive anymore? When did that happen?

Comedy cannot be offensive to trans people on Twitch, specifically! Here's the part where I rhetorically taunt with my weaponization of the virtue of free enterprise: "You have a right to free speech, but I have a right to decide what I allow on my platform!" Yeah, I don't entirely believe that either. I see the weasel here and so do you. So I have a right to disregard the value of free speech. But is that really wha…

Platforms aren't there for your free speech, nor should they be. They're there for their own free speech, and freedom of association. Every platform bans content that is perfectly legal: spam, porn, gore, etc. Platforms like gab and parler ban "woke" content. Hell, even libraries pick and choose which books to buy, which books to put in the shelves, which books to put on display. Yes, this is really what we want, if we want a useable internet. Without the freedom to curate, platforms would inundated with so much spam, you'd never see the content you want.

Don't like it? Feel free to make your own platform that allows absolutely everything up to the line of legality! Just remember, nobody owes you financial success or a large user-base.

Re: AI Generated Seinfeld banned on Twitch for transphobic jokes

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Post by coding123 »

mFixman wrote: post #121

Everybody seems up in arms about this situation, but I find the whole thing hilarious. After half a decade of AI hype without many uses in the wild, we finally live at a point in history where "AI-generated Jerry Seinfeld makes transphobic joke, gets cancelled" is not an Onion headline.

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Re: AI Generated Seinfeld banned on Twitch for transphobic jokes

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Post by gardenhedge »

Cthulhu_ wrote: post #129
verytrivial wrote: post #53

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The topic is taboo. I cannot be freely discussed on these platforms regardless of the position taken.

The topic isn't taboo, but making fun of people is. Be nice to other people and suddenly you don't get canceled or whatever you're afraid will happen.

Go watch the clip.

Re: AI Generated Seinfeld banned on Twitch for transphobic jokes

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Post by [deleted] »

nigamanth wrote: post #155
mFixman wrote: post #121

Everybody seems up in arms about this situation, but I find the whole thing hilarious. After half a decade of AI hype without many uses in the wild, we finally live at a point in history where "AI-generated Jerry Seinfeld makes transphobic joke, gets cancelled" is not an Onion headline.

The AI should make an episode regarding the world seeing this AI getting banned on twitch. When I read the heading on HN I started laughing out loud in a public place.

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Re: AI Generated Seinfeld banned on Twitch for transphobic jokes

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Post by awb »

rideontime wrote: post #51
soared wrote: post #36

I’ve seen headlines about the AI Seinfeld but after watching the clip - is it solely the script? I was expecting the voice and video to be Seinfeld.

There's really nothing Seinfeld about it besides the visual resemblance.

And the canned laughter

Re: AI Generated Seinfeld banned on Twitch for transphobic jokes

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Post by pyth0 »

hellojesus wrote: post #123
jasonlotito wrote: post #38

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No, comedy can still be offensive. Anyone suggesting comedians can't be offensive is lying. Comedians routinely punch down, and routinely sell out shows. The believe that comedian's can't be offensive is a shtick they are using to market their shows to an audience. It's all advertising and marketing, and the gullible eat it up because it feeds into their bias.

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> They adhered to the current mainstream religion of Marxism.

This is complete delusion and shows absolutely no understanding of modern politics.

Re: AI Generated Seinfeld banned on Twitch for transphobic jokes

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Post by jaywalk »

brookst wrote: post #82
sixQuarks wrote: post #48

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Should platforms be able to decide for themselves, or should people be forced to work on content they find offensive?

Nobody is forced to work on anything. If you choose to work for a public platform, that should not automatically grant you authority to dictate what goes on it based on your own sensibilities.
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