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AI Generated Seinfeld banned on Twitch for transphobic jokes

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Re: AI Generated Seinfeld banned on Twitch for transphobic jokes

#121
Everybody seems up in arms about this situation, but I find the whole thing hilarious.

After half a decade of AI hype without many uses in the wild, we finally live at a point in history where "AI-generated Jerry Seinfeld makes transphobic joke, gets cancelled" is not an Onion headline.

Re: AI Generated Seinfeld banned on Twitch for transphobic jokes

#122
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree, but it’s ambiguous enough to be poor taste and feel uncomfortable. My first instinct is that Twitch is overreacting, but I can see why they need to be pretty draconian to avoid endless boundary-pushing from jerks.

Artists are what we call the people who push against the boundaries of majority group-speak and government mandated thinking.

> Artists are what we call the people who push against the boundaries of majority group-speak and government mandated thinking.

By that reductively absurd measure, Earl Butz is an artist. [0]

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earl_Butz#Scandals_and_resigna...

Re: AI Generated Seinfeld banned on Twitch for transphobic jokes

#123

So comedy cannot be offensive anymore? When did that happen?

No, comedy can still be offensive. Anyone suggesting comedians can't be offensive is lying. Comedians routinely punch down, and routinely sell out shows. The believe that comedian's can't be offensive is a shtick they are using to market their shows to an audience. It's all advertising and marketing, and the gullible eat it up because it feeds into their bias.

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Re: AI Generated Seinfeld banned on Twitch for transphobic jokes

#124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Chapelle is rolling in Netflix money and won a Grammy last night. By what metric is he "cancelled" other than "some people called him bad names"?

So, what you're telling me, is that millionaires get to make transphobic jokes all they want, because they are immune to cancellation because of their bank account. Fun.

>because of their bank account.

He won a grammy. I don't know what more you can want. It seems like cancelled has come to mean "everyone doesn't immediately fellate me"

Re: AI Generated Seinfeld banned on Twitch for transphobic jokes

#125
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If you click through to the mirror from the /r/livestreamfail page, the clip actually comes across (to me) as making fun of the people who make those kinds of jokes.

The topic is taboo. I cannot be freely discussed on these platforms regardless of the position taken.

Which probably isn't a good strategy to handle taboo topics long-term.

Re: AI Generated Seinfeld banned on Twitch for transphobic jokes

#126
post #55

I realize this wasn't ChatGPT, and in fact the self-censorship is a big selling point of ChatGPT/OpenAI (to the chagrin of quite a few people), but this does throw a wrench into people claiming that it's not a big deal if an LLM gives a bad response to a prompt. Much like a self-driving car AI making a "mistake" can kill a passenger or pedestrian, a LLM mistakenly including slurs in your weekly ChatGPT-powered market…

If you don't even read the emails you send I think it's fair

Re: AI Generated Seinfeld banned on Twitch for transphobic jokes

#127
post #5

If you click through to the mirror from the /r/livestreamfail page, the clip actually comes across (to me) as making fun of the people who make those kinds of jokes.

The topic is taboo. I cannot be freely discussed on these platforms regardless of the position taken.

I regularly see clips of very popular Twitch streamers being openly sexist, racist, and abusive. I'm curious why a single mention of a taboo topic on an AI-generated channel warranted such a severe response.

Re: AI Generated Seinfeld banned on Twitch for transphobic jokes

#129
post #5

If you click through to the mirror from the /r/livestreamfail page, the clip actually comes across (to me) as making fun of the people who make those kinds of jokes.

The topic is taboo. I cannot be freely discussed on these platforms regardless of the position taken.

The topic isn't taboo, but making fun of people is. Be nice to other people and suddenly you don't get canceled or whatever you're afraid will happen.

Re: AI Generated Seinfeld banned on Twitch for transphobic jokes

#130

Good to know you can do some transphobic jokes about something and get it banned. Interesting DoS/sabotage vector. This is what happens when you have people "trying" to do good but not following principles.

You can't just make a joke about something to get it taken down, it has to be included in that something. Seinfeld isn't taboo now, this "AI Seinfeld" is banned for two weeks. The sabotage would have to come from the inside.
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