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Re: Ask HN: Did anyone else lose their marbles?

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You probably are an outlier. Most people haven't experienced a complete detachment from reality. However, you are not alone. I lost my marbles in 2020.

Covid isolation, lack of separation between remote work and personal life and a having a 2-year at home at all times without family help led me to two consecutive visits to a mental hospital. I had never experienced any signs of mental illness other than some mild depression and anxiety. I was well into my 30s. However, with my mental break, I was fully gone for about a month and half.

It wasn't fossils for me, At various points, I believed that:

- I was dead

- Water is the only thing needed to sustain human life and we're all being poisoned

- My daughter was dead

- I was in hell

- I was abducted by aliens

- I was in a real life version of the Simpsons (where I was Bart Simpson and the other mental hospital patients were other characters)

- I had perfect pitch and could harmonize better than Brian Wilson

- I was a genius

- My mom and dad were trying to kill me

- I was the spiritual successor to Daniel Johnston

- I could travel through time

I had to go through 14+ ECT procedures to come back to reality and the transition back reality was the most difficult experience of my life as I felt broken was deeply, deeply depressed and suicidal and that I was failure to my family. It was and has been very isolating to not have an outlet to talk about this experience with anyone. This is a throwaway account, but I have an email if in my profile if you (or anyone else) wants to discuss mental health issues honestly and not feel so alone or judged.

Re: Ask HN: Did anyone else lose their marbles?

#242
post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

oh yeah, keep feeding the grinder, never stop feeding the grinder or else.

We all need to be able to make a living, whether it's software engineering, wood working, or day dreaming (if you can get paid for that). In general life is about getting big things done. Whether it's raising a kid, bagging 20 tons of groceries, wiring a house, or shipping 2M lines of code. The point being made is how to do that sustainably. Don't be a curmudgeon.

> In general life is about getting big things done.

Based on your responses, I envy your clarity and general attitude towards life. You seem to have purpose and drive that comes from that purpose.

I've never found that clarity of "life is about X". Even if i did, it only last a while and then i was back to square one. You are experiencing what OP is experiencing, complete attachment to your beliefs, in your case its very productive. kudos.

Re: Ask HN: Did anyone else lose their marbles?

#243

You probably are an outlier. Most people haven't experienced a complete detachment from reality. However, you are not alone. I lost my marbles in 2020. Covid isolation, lack of separation between remote work and personal life and a having a 2-year at home at all times without family help led me to two consecutive visits to a mental hospital. I had never experienced any signs of mental illness other than some mild dep…

Not my situation, but I think I have several friends going through this. Any suggestions you would have in getting someone in that situation to seek help, and what the right kind of help looks like?

Re: Ask HN: Did anyone else lose their marbles?

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I had a ~two years setback at work due to covid. It was not due a psychotic episode, but probably the effects felt similarly bad [to my coworkers]: my thoughts were all over the place, I could not carry a deep tech conversation as I would jump on a tangent and carry on different seemingly unrelated topics, I appeared confused and distracted all the time. I had compounding effects of brain fog and, then undiagnosed, A…

I've heard a lot about brain fog, concentration issues, and lack of focus in the past 3 years. Could some of it be long-Covid after an asymptomatic infection?

Re: Ask HN: Did anyone else lose their marbles?

#246

I've just become completely lethargic lately. And there's some sort of mental block stopping me from working. It's kinda insane because I can work on other stuff, but as soon as there's a simple task for my employer my mind just wanders off. And when I really try to focus I just go blank in my head. Can't explain shit. I'm trying to slowly get back on the pony just because I'm ashamed of all the salary I've collected…

I've had this happen more often than burnout. For me, it's simple lack of engagement. Even if you never gave much, when you really stop giving a shit, it becomes difficult to give even a bare minimum. It's usually coupled with a feeling that anything else you do with your time is more important than work. Like anything. I recall skipping important meetings to go outside and pick up dog poo from the lawn. Also for me,…

That looks like a very effective defense mechanism for recovering from burnout. Maybe the reason you didn't noticed it as burnout is that you recovered while it was still mild.

Re: Ask HN: Did anyone else lose their marbles?

#247

I've just become completely lethargic lately. And there's some sort of mental block stopping me from working. It's kinda insane because I can work on other stuff, but as soon as there's a simple task for my employer my mind just wanders off. And when I really try to focus I just go blank in my head. Can't explain shit. I'm trying to slowly get back on the pony just because I'm ashamed of all the salary I've collected…

> It might be rooted in the fact that I don't have kids As a parent: nope, it's definitely not that. Yes, having children is a rich and beautiful experience. It's also a ruthless grind. So, if you think you're feeling lethargic and it's all a bit futile, imagine doing everything you do now, but also arguing with a smaller, more annoying version of yourself for a couple of decades while sleep deprived, and with 1/4 of…

>> It might be rooted in the fact that I don't have kids > As a parent: nope, it's definitely not that.

As a parent, I'm not so sure. I think every person is different, and some people (myself) respond really well to having kids. They give you a purpose in life and make everything seem more meaningful.

Other people absolutely do not get as much out of having kids, and it feels like a grind to them.

People are just different, nothing wrong with that at all. IMO problems may arise when your reality is misaligned with the kind of person you are.

Or it could be something else entirely.

Re: Ask HN: Did anyone else lose their marbles?

#248

Sometimes this can be a sign you need to put more energy into the spiritual side of your life. Many people find faith important to their mental well being. As society has abandoned its religious foundation, mental illness has increased. Perhaps psychosis is the mind’s way of saying, there’s more to all this.

Counterpoint: some might consider a lot of the aspects of many faiths as exacerbating to a mental health disorder. Plenty of mental health issues center around faith and specific religions, even. I think society is at a net positive for leaving "faith" behind, but spirituality can exist in the absence of any specific religion [0]. [0] https://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2020/01/13/spirituality-kris...

Well, you’re simply wrong, arguably justifiably bigoted. I don’t think bigotry on (race or) creed is justified however. I speak from experience on this matter but if you don’t like personal testimony and prefer hard data, you can do the math. Spiritual woo or claims of being a prophet or the messiah himself, as another commenter related, ie hyperreligiosity are a classic symptom of bipolar mania. Worship within well established denominations, according to traditions and social norms that are hundreds of years old is what helps people. There are hundreds of years of historical data, big data if you will, from which you can draw pretty solid conclusions, but only if you put your bigotry aside and look at it objectively.

Re: Ask HN: Did anyone else lose their marbles?

#249
I was like you, held a great paying job, worked with ambitious people and was happily in a long term relationship. However I had a breakdown which was triggered before COVID started and lasted for about two years.

I lost my job because the company closed, then my relationship fell apart after 10 years, I somehow managed to find another job but then this company _also_ shutdown, then immediately after COVID hit and during that extreme period of anxiety and loneliness I found out my dad is gravely ill..

I eventually manage to dig myself out but it required a lot of hard work and mental discipline.

There was a Church near my house which remained opened during COVID due to it being empty 90% of the time. One day I was driving and passed by it and for some reason decided to go in (I always considered myself a rational Atheist) and just sitting there looking at the Altar gave me peace. After a while of doing this, I noticed a shift in my mentality.

I started reading and researching things I had never interest in: religious texts, philosophy, history and art. This helped me expand my mind, I realized that instead of licking my wounds, I could focus on my neighbors and those in need and that people in history had gone though harsher times and survived for me to be here, so I owe it to them to keep going.

I finally I made a decision to start exercising, eating healthy, sleeping, setting a routine and slowly recover.

As a side note, I eventually ended up converting to Catholicism but that is unrelated to above, in fact my conversion didn't even start until a year after and it took a lot of effort and convincing.

If you are reading this and are struggling, know that you are not alone. My heart beats for you as a stranger and if anything, I need you to keep going because our survival depends on each other.

Re: Ask HN: Did anyone else lose their marbles?

#250

You probably are an outlier. Most people haven't experienced a complete detachment from reality. However, you are not alone. I lost my marbles in 2020. Covid isolation, lack of separation between remote work and personal life and a having a 2-year at home at all times without family help led me to two consecutive visits to a mental hospital. I had never experienced any signs of mental illness other than some mild dep…

> Most people haven't experienced a complete detachment from reality

I don't know, anecdotally I suspect more people have weird issues than you'd think. We're just pretty good at hiding them until we can't.

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