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As a US Navy fighter pilot, I witnessed unidentified anomalous phenomena

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Re: As a US Navy fighter pilot, I witnessed unidentified anomalous phenomena

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Post by lostcolony »

spaceman_2020 wrote: post #524
belter wrote: post #414

- 40,000 to 70,000 Amateur Astronomers, scan the skies every night, with precision instruments capable to distinguish Jupiter atmosphere bands. Hardly any noticed these anomalous phenomena... - About 500 observatories in the world, most of which are located in the Northern hemisphere study nightly stars, galaxies, planets and other celestial objects. Hardly any noticed these anomalous phenomena... - By some rough est…

Counterpoint: any civilization advanced enough for interplanetary travel is also smart enough to reveal itself when it WANTS to reveal itself. Cloaking and stealth are reasonably simpler technologies compared to traveling light years.

I mean, sure, but Occam's razor probably applies, no? Seems more likely that people occasionally misidentify something or hallucinate something or similar, than that there are interplanetary travelers who have both FTL travel and perfect cloaking abilities who come to earth, turn them off just long enough to fuck with a couple of people, then turn them back on and fly off.

Re: As a US Navy fighter pilot, I witnessed unidentified anomalous phenomena

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Post by 8note »

danenania wrote: post #349
XorNot wrote: post #321

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Aliens isn't being thrown out a priori, because the hypothesis isn't just "it's aliens". The hypothesis, to fit the evidence is: "it's aliens, using technology advanced enough that it can do things nothing else on Earth can do, without generating the normally expected physical effects, and are also mostly but not entirely undetectable".

Given what we’ve learned about the challenges of interstellar travel, it’s safe to assume that any civilization capable of visiting us would be thousands of years beyond our current understanding of physics. If you compare our current understanding of physics to what humans knew thousands of years ago, it’s logical that the technology of an interstellar civilization would be as far beyond our understanding as a nucle…

If I met a wizard, he'd obviously be way better at magic than I am, and it'd be way beyond my understanding of physics. Those safe assumptions don't make magic exist

Re: As a US Navy fighter pilot, I witnessed unidentified anomalous phenomena

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Post by lostcolony »

tshaddox wrote: post #521
pyuser583 wrote: post #516

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Some of these objections are so broad the exclude the possibility of a legit optical illusion. Most of the stuff we see in space isn’t there. The day sky isn’t blue, the night sky isn’t black, stars don’t twinkle, etc. Our military sensors are specifically trained to exclude most phenomena. Is it so much to believe that optical illusion are common at high altitudes? And that militaries don’t like their pilots “seeing…

Do what now? Those things you listed aren’t actually optical illusions, are they? Pretty sure the sky is actually blue.

Funny you should mention that one... https://www.forbes.com/sites/briankoberlein/2017/01/11/earth...

Re: As a US Navy fighter pilot, I witnessed unidentified anomalous phenomena

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Post by [deleted] »

tshaddox wrote: post #521
pyuser583 wrote: post #516

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Some of these objections are so broad the exclude the possibility of a legit optical illusion. Most of the stuff we see in space isn’t there. The day sky isn’t blue, the night sky isn’t black, stars don’t twinkle, etc. Our military sensors are specifically trained to exclude most phenomena. Is it so much to believe that optical illusion are common at high altitudes? And that militaries don’t like their pilots “seeing…

Do what now? Those things you listed aren’t actually optical illusions, are they? Pretty sure the sky is actually blue.

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Post by 8note »

revscat wrote: post #495
vinaypai wrote: post #460

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To be clear the advanced tech doesn't actually have to be manoeuvering in amazing ways. It could be an electronic warfare system that messes with sensors to make it appear so.

My worst fear is simply an advanced technology that provides a means to remotely trigger action potentials at will. At that point anything is possible.

Like a phone call?

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Post by [deleted] »

rowanG077 wrote: post #193
namaria wrote: post #163

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Well would you increase the budget of your production grade deliverables for maybe proving to internet forum visitors that your product sometimes is in the presence of weird phenomena?

Oh I dunno. Maybe because that's what people do? We put billions into explaining stuff we don't understand.

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Post by MacsHeadroom »

j0057 wrote: post #500
sambull wrote: post #359

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The patent Summary, "The present invention is directed to a craft using an inertial mass reduction device. The craft includes an inner resonant cavity wall, an outer resonant cavity, and microwave emitters. The outer resonant cavity wall and the inner resonant cavity wall form a resonant cavity. The microwave emitters create high frequency electromagnetic waves throughout the resonant cavity causing the outer resonan…

I read that too, that's why I asked. Here is an article about it: https://www.forbes.com/sites/arielcohen/2021/02/08/what-is-b... — this thing is supposed to enable faster than light travel, which needless to say is impossible according to our best understanding of the laws of physics. I suppose that is part as well of the great PSYOP for suppressing the truth.

Actual FTL is impossible according to known physics, but effective FTL is not. Move the space around an object via warp bubble and you can have your cake and eat it too, in theory.

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Post by jamiek88 »

majestic5762 wrote: post #523
8note wrote: post #514

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Rather than repeating antisemitic talking points, you can instead point at a weakness in human pattern recognition -- it's bad wrt to false positives. People see patterns that aren't there

What's antisemitic from my words? But you're correct: people see patterns, like me or you, and they're often wrong, but not always. The truth lurks in there somewhere. But that was just my theory based on personal experience and observation. I'm not interested in political, religious or racial discussions.

These are all tropes about (((JEWS)) historically, ((NEW WORLD ORDER) is ((JEWS)).

It's thinly veiled stuff to a lot of people.

Coincidental here I'm sure, but it can raise the hackles.

Especially 'secret fraternities', makes you think freemasons etc often used pejoratively by anti semites.

Just shedding some light here not making any accusations.

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Post by alto22 »

giantrobot wrote: post #452
ShredKazoo wrote: post #403

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>You would be smart to guess that there are bigger copies of nearly any remote species in the ocean. And there are 100 billion stars in the Milky Way. Is it so unreasonable to guess that intelligent life arose more than once?

> Is it so unreasonable to guess that intelligent life arose more than once? This is absolutely ludicrous. It doesn't matter how many stars are in the sky or how likely life bearing planets are in the galaxy. There's a vast gulf between "life exists on multiple planets in the galaxy" and "that life is flying around Earth in little metal spaceships that defy all known physical laws".

Not to mention, "that life is appearing to deliberately be almost completely elusive for no clear reason, in a way that's eerily similar to other superstitions like mermaids, fairies, Santa Claus, and Big foot."

Re: As a US Navy fighter pilot, I witnessed unidentified anomalous phenomena

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Post by ostenning »

wpietri wrote: post #507
belter wrote: post #414

- 40,000 to 70,000 Amateur Astronomers, scan the skies every night, with precision instruments capable to distinguish Jupiter atmosphere bands. Hardly any noticed these anomalous phenomena... - About 500 observatories in the world, most of which are located in the Northern hemisphere study nightly stars, galaxies, planets and other celestial objects. Hardly any noticed these anomalous phenomena... - By some rough est…

And I'd add that in the last 20 years, we have increased by orders of magnitude people's ability to capture photos and video. Billions of people now have smartphones on their persons all the time. Billions! But the evidence we have is somehow the same quality as before. So it seems that either space aliens have coincidentally gotten orders of magnitude better at avoiding recordings, or the explanation is not about wh…

If Aliens can seemingly break all known laws of the physical universe to get to Earth, somehow I think they could probably evade as many mobile phone cameras as they want
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