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Re: ThinkPad T420

#11

I do not agree. ThinkPad W520 is so much better while having all features of T420 and more. Things in W520 is better: - FullHD (1920x1080) screen instead of only 1600x900 - USB 3.0 ports instead of only USB 2.0 ports - powerful GPU instead of limited one - will have 4 cores and 8 threats instead of 2 cores and 4 threads - has 4 RAM slots so 32 GB RAM is possible In case you really need smaller size - the T420s is bet…

Past the 420, the keyboards went to crap, and the intel management engine was built-in though, right?

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#12
I still think my (coming up for) thirteen-year-old Lenovo T410 laptop is my 'peak-laptop' machine, even though I have replaced it with a more modern Lenovo P53. And that was mainly due to the P53 having a slightly larger display screen with 4K pixels. And it took me twelve months or so to finally settle on the P53.

The T410 was just a more enjoyable machine overall to use.

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#14
I had a T410 for a while, really enjoyed the 14 inch size and the keyboard. However the screen was relatively poor, not bright and poor viewing angles.

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#15
My old company bought so many of these, and they all had their monitors die in exactly the same way after just over a year.

They would get a 1” wide band of noise going vertically up and down the entire screen, you could tap on the base of the bezel around where the noise was and it would go away for a bit and then come back. (a dying ribbon cable or connector?)

Eventually tapping would have to be harder and harder to get the noise the stop, until it would never stop.

It was certainly the last ThinkPads I ever bought.

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#16
As nice as some of old-ish business and workstation laptops like Thinkpads, Latitudes, and Precisions are in some ways, one aspect that’s looking increasingly aged is battery life and brick size. I don’t necessarily need my laptops to be powerhouses, but it’s nice to not need to carry the charger brick most of the time, and on the odd occasion I do it’s better if it’s not literally a brick.

I have a circa 2008 15.4” Precision that I’ve upgraded quite a lot thanks to its modularity and expandability, and it’s still pretty serviceable except that even with a brand new larger-model battery it’d be a stretch to get 4-5 hours of life out of it, and its charger brick is monstrous. It’s a stark contrast to a 16” M-series MBP, which is also a high-performance (if not quite workstation) class laptop, but gets somewhere between 2-4x the battery life and can charge up overnight with a compact 30W USB-C phone charger without any adapters.

It’d be interesting if one of those projects that retrofits old ThinkPad shells with modern mainboards were built around an ultra-efficient ARM SoC instead of the usual x86 fare. That’d address the issue pretty well.

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#17
Are there any guides to repurposing the removable "Serial UltraBay" which houses the CD/DVD/Blu-ray drives?

I have a T430s, and I've been wanting to stick an SDR in that bay for years. But I'm not sure where to start, and I don't see many technical details about how it connects to the mobo on this wiki (admitted I didn't look too hard).

Re: ThinkPad T420

#18
I am a long time ThinkPad user. I've replaced screens to add IPS, re-pasted CPUs, changed out 'clunkpads' and all the rest.

Not so long ago, my employer bought me a Dell Latitude. I think it's a 54xx. It has a pen-capable touchscreen and it is the best laptop I've ever owned. I don't care if it ever gets upgraded.

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I am currently posting from my T420 and giving up this keyboard when the time finally comes will be a very sad day. I would gladly take a little more girth on a newer laptop if it meant I could have a real keyboard instead of typing on zero travel chiclet keys. I think the constant drive to make laptops a tiny bit thinner every year has been a detriment to usability. Luckily I have upgraded the display on my poor old T420 and don't use windows, so I still have some years before I have to think about it too hard.

Re: ThinkPad T420

#20

I do not agree. ThinkPad W520 is so much better while having all features of T420 and more. Things in W520 is better: - FullHD (1920x1080) screen instead of only 1600x900 - USB 3.0 ports instead of only USB 2.0 ports - powerful GPU instead of limited one - will have 4 cores and 8 threats instead of 2 cores and 4 threads - has 4 RAM slots so 32 GB RAM is possible In case you really need smaller size - the T420s is bet…

T420 can be modded easily to have 1080p full hd IPS screen, 4C8T ivy bridge CPU and 16GB ram. The only thing it's missing is usb3 which can be solved with a cardbus extension card. W520's full hd screen is not IPS (and can't be modded) so viewing angle is somewhat limited (but still ok for a laptop of its age). The discrete GPU on w520 is indeed better than the integrated GPU in ivy bridge but still hopelessly outdated for pretty much any graphics intensive task today so you are probably better off saving some battery life by not having it.

Btw X220 can be modded to have a 2K 16:10 display (I'm using one rn), although it's a nontrivial mod. W520 is the only model that can't (or at least hasn't) be modded at all.

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