I'll believe aliens exist when little green men walk up to me, shake my hand, and start discussing the engineering particulars of faster than light travel. Until then...
As a US Navy fighter pilot, I witnessed unidentified anomalous phenomena
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Re: As a US Navy fighter pilot, I witnessed unidentified anomalous phenomena
#242Earlier quoted context omitted.
The Nimitz Incident of 2004(?). Extremely detailed visual and sensor events. Tons of human witnesses. Tons of activity. There was a detailed Reddit thread on the incident from a Seaman many, many years ago long before news of the Tic Tac came out. I’m on mobile but perhaps someone else can paste the thread URL. Could be an elaborate hoax but that’s one heck of a long con game.
> The Nimitz Incident of 2004(?). The Tic Tac UFO? That's probably one of the best explained events (debunked). Short answer is that there was sense misreading and a gimbal lock. Some people even simulated it[0]. I wouldn't call this an elaborate hoax, but an optical illusion and an event that took some expertise to understand. Expertise that a pilot wouldn't have. I should add that finding that link was nontrivial.…
And how does a gimbal lock simultaneously show up on multiple sensor systems across warships?
Re: As a US Navy fighter pilot, I witnessed unidentified anomalous phenomena
#243Glad to see this topic finally discussed here. With the shift in government posture and establishment of the All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office ( https://www.defense.gov/News/Releases/Release/Article/310005... ) it will only be a matter of time until more service members come forward with their experiences and enough data is gathered to ascertain the inevitable: these craft are real and we've been visited by nonhum…
I do remember the comment thread on the 2017 time article here on hn. Opinions already have changed considerably in the last 5 years. It also appears as if the process of disseminating information still accelerates (with promis coming out as experiencers and so on). I can only advise everyone to consider C.G. Jung and read Jaques Vallee. This situation is very complicated, but not at all bad in the end. As far as I c…
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Re: As a US Navy fighter pilot, I witnessed unidentified anomalous phenomena
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According to one of the pilots, there is a longer, classified video of the incident that shows the SA page and has the distance listed there. People make mistakes, but data doesn’t. And according to these pilots and the former head of the DoD UAP program, the data shows that there are craft moving in our airspace with impunity.
Wouldn't that be revealing classified info? Probably no punishment if the "classified info" is made up as a prank so he can freely claim it if it isn't real but would be risking punishment if it was.
The sensors are classified but saying the sensors can see 6-8 nm's away is not because that would not be telling our adversaries anything - that technology has been available for decades. Giving away a capability that our adversaries don't know we have would be bad. For example, navy personnel have been saying that submarines go far faster than what the public knows they can (but obviously they cannot say exactly how fast subs go)
Re: As a US Navy fighter pilot, I witnessed unidentified anomalous phenomena
#245So let’s see, over the course of centuries, you can see these things but they have had zero material effect on anyone on earth except the pilots that saw them.
Re: As a US Navy fighter pilot, I witnessed unidentified anomalous phenomena
#246I don't get it. In recent years a number of people who I know and I view to be very intelligent have started talk to me about how they believe reports of aliens trolling US fighter pilots and that the US government is covering this up. And I'm aware that "trolling" might be viewed as an uncharitable way of looking at it, but I actually think that's the most accurate description of what's being reported in these sightings...
Before I say anymore though, I think I'm someone who could easily believe in UFO sightings. I have had reoccurring nightmares for the last decade of my life involving alien invasions of Earth. They're always slightly different, but in general I have no idea how to protect those I love and no matter what I do everyone dies. I'm certain the reason I have these nightmares is because I view the risk of an ET encounter in my lifetime to be reasonably high given how rapidly our technology is improving. And I suspect that encounter, should it happen, won't end well.
But despite these predispositions I still think these reports reek of BS...
The descriptions of these sightings would imply that the aliens have highly advanced technology - far beyond anything we're capable of. And if they can move with the flexibility and speed described, and are aware of the presence of the US fighter jets as is claimed, then they probably don't need to make themselves visible, but are choosing to.
So then you have to ask why they want to be seen and if they're trying to send us a message? But if that was the case then what message are they even sending by occasionally trolling fighter pilots with their superior manoeuvrability? Maybe it's a threat? But if they wanted to say, "we're here and we're far more advanced than you - don't piss us off", then presumably there would be better ways to do that? I mean if a large portion of the people you're trying to send a message isn't even certain about your presence, let alone your message, then you're not exactly doing a great job.
And then on top of this you have to ask why is the government would even cover this up? This clip sums up why I don't really get the narrative that the US has an interest in covering up such undisputable evidence of UFOs, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTHB8iC1C0E
The only explanation that makes sense to me is that we're being routinely visited by intergalactic trolls. And while the US government are aware that weird things are being reported it's not really clear if these sightings are accurate, if they're even aliens, and if they are aliens what the message could be.
If you believe these are UFOs and have an alternative explanation that makes sense, then please help me out. I'll probably have nightmares for the next year, but I would still like to understand why I'm wrong.
Re: As a US Navy fighter pilot, I witnessed unidentified anomalous phenomena
#247Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I wonder how much some of these unidentified phenomena might be checked for some similar effects. come on, man. at some point, after enough of these reports, toeing the line you're toeing starts to look ludicrous. these are trained observers, pilots who know what to expect in the sky. and do not take lightly that there is still a certain amount of embarrassment (a social cost) to even coming forward, so to even mak…
How many experienced sailors once reported seeing mermaids? Until we understand the source of these sightings, it's entirely plausible pilots are all seeing something that doesn't actually exist for some reason or another. We won't know why until the phenomena is no longer mysterious, but there's always a high likelihood a given unknown is mundane, as opposed to fantastical or extraterrestrial. The article is right w…
Well they are seeing something
There is video evidence which makes the mermaid analogue a bad one.
Re: As a US Navy fighter pilot, I witnessed unidentified anomalous phenomena
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Exactly how many eyewitness accounts, devoid of good physical evidence, constitute "Evidence" with a capital "E"? If this number is "infinity" for you, that is unreasonable.
None of them. My dad did accident investigation for the Air Force for a time. One time there was a crash into the sea, amply witnessed by many on board a Navy ship, including pilots. They all said the wings came off the airplane before it hit the water. (The airplane had a reputation for wings coming off.) These people honestly believed that's what they saw. Except for one Navy seaman, on his first trip on a boat. He…
This is really key. Eyewitness accounts are reliably dismal in evidentiary value, even by people with relevant knowledge. Our brains lie to us all the time.
Re: As a US Navy fighter pilot, I witnessed unidentified anomalous phenomena
#249Earlier quoted context omitted.
How many experienced sailors once reported seeing mermaids? Until we understand the source of these sightings, it's entirely plausible pilots are all seeing something that doesn't actually exist for some reason or another. We won't know why until the phenomena is no longer mysterious, but there's always a high likelihood a given unknown is mundane, as opposed to fantastical or extraterrestrial. The article is right w…
How many were ridiculed for telling about their sights of giant squid until the day the first one was caught?
giant squid have a biological premise; they're just bigger squid. Their origin can be strongly guessed. You would be smart to guess that there are bigger copies of nearly any remote species in the ocean.
we have yet to find a plethora of ocean-dwelling smaller mermaids and 'tic-tacs'. In fact, we've yet to discover solid evidence of the existence of either phenomena, regardless of size.
Chances start to diminish in the guessing game when you're trying to forecast the completely novel/unknown/under-witnessed.
'human effects' start to cloud things a lot more when we start talking about religion/ghouls/goblins/time-travelers/bainshees/sirens/etc.
Re: As a US Navy fighter pilot, I witnessed unidentified anomalous phenomena
#250Earlier quoted context omitted.
The pulsating in the NARCAP video looks like the camera trying and failing to find focus on anything that it's looking at. Interesting though.
Were their eyes failing to auto-focus? Did you watch the video with sound? They're talking about it pulsating as they film it.
They talk about it pulsating on the camera.