If you are happy not surfing most of the Web, any computer is good enough. It's usually browsers and web pages that brings these older PCs down.
That’s just exemplifying how the web tech stack has been going astray, isn’t it?
If you're happy with OpenBSD, probably any computer is good enough
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Re: If you're happy with OpenBSD, probably any computer is good enough
#132The blog's author might like this dillo fork. It needs autoconf, automake, gmake, mbedtls and ftlk. https://github.com/w00fpack/dilloNG Mpv it's recommended, at it has a context menu to play videos with it and the help of youtube-dl or yt-dlp. A config for it: ~/.config/mpv/config ytdl-format="bestvideo[height Also, for X.Org, you can set the config for the ATI driver so it loads the DRI2 drivers among the EXA render…
Any advice on how to get Intel 855 working with Mesa? X.org had an update and they removed or deprecated the engine it used. Thanks.
Which distro? Parabola and Arch Linux have the mesa-amber package, which enables OpenGL for legeacy chipsets.
Re: If you're happy with OpenBSD, probably any computer is good enough
#133If you are happy not surfing most of the Web, any computer is good enough. It's usually browsers and web pages that brings these older PCs down.
That’s just exemplifying how the web tech stack has been going astray, isn’t it?
Somewhat. But more so how the web transformed from interconnected documents to interconnected applications built on tech meant for documents.
Re: If you're happy with OpenBSD, probably any computer is good enough
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How so? Celeron, 2GB of RAM, ~4GB with compressed ZRAM. Libreoffice works, most stuff works with GL 2.1, even 720p video with MPV. LibreOffice, Ted, Abiword, GNUMeric... For the rest, UBlock Origin it's your friend and git://bitreich.org/privacy-haters to cut in half the realistical Chromium requeriments.
... Add Linux with a 6.1 kernel with MGLRU , enable ext4 fast_commit, stop unnecessary services. Switch Chrome by Brave. Add a tab suspender. If you have 4GB or more, set the browser cache to RAM (a tmpfs directory). You'll be surprised of how speedy and usable is your old Celeron computer. And this CPU is very power efficient, so no heat and no fan. Silence. My 2016 Lenovo laptop was almost unusable with windows 10…
Avoid brave. It' s spyware. If any, Chromium-Ungoogle with the settings from:
git clone git://bitreich.org/privacy-haters
That and UBlock Origin with the country specific ad blocking rules will cut down a good bunch of crap.
Re: If you're happy with OpenBSD, probably any computer is good enough
#135There are lots of people in the comments here who appear to not get it. This isn't about replacing a contemporary computer with something old. It's about the usability of a decent OS on very modest hardware. One of the systems on which I run NetBSD is a 33 MHz m68030 Mac LC III+ ( http://elsie.zia.io - it's hosting a site about an LC II, which I'm still working on). It's quite useful to see how assumptions people mak…
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Re: If you're happy with OpenBSD, probably any computer is good enough
#136Fourth generation Intel i5 laptop from around 2013 is still kicking hard provided enough Ram (8Go or 16Go depending on your needs) and a SSD.
Not "usable (but read the fine print)". Comfortable to use (running Linux at least).
IMac G5 from 2004 on the contrary?
Too heavy, too hot, two slow (single thread cpu doesn't cut it)
Late 2007 Intel core 2 duo? RAM maxes out at 4Go but surprisingly usable. Not comfortable but usable.
That should give you an idea of where to set your expectations. I do recommend buying second hand but I wouldn't go under 2012 for a daily driver personally, for peace of mind.
Re: If you're happy with OpenBSD, probably any computer is good enough
#137Earlier quoted context omitted.
Any advice on how to get Intel 855 working with Mesa? X.org had an update and they removed or deprecated the engine it used. Thanks.
Which distro? Parabola and Arch Linux have the mesa-amber package, which enables OpenGL for legeacy chipsets.
OpenBSD, I will look in to this package though. Maybe I can get it running from source.
Re: If you're happy with OpenBSD, probably any computer is good enough
#138There are lots of people in the comments here who appear to not get it. This isn't about replacing a contemporary computer with something old. It's about the usability of a decent OS on very modest hardware. One of the systems on which I run NetBSD is a 33 MHz m68030 Mac LC III+ ( http://elsie.zia.io - it's hosting a site about an LC II, which I'm still working on). It's quite useful to see how assumptions people mak…
What part of SSH takes 6 minutes?
Re: If you're happy with OpenBSD, probably any computer is good enough
#139There are lots of people in the comments here who appear to not get it. This isn't about replacing a contemporary computer with something old. It's about the usability of a decent OS on very modest hardware. One of the systems on which I run NetBSD is a 33 MHz m68030 Mac LC III+ ( http://elsie.zia.io - it's hosting a site about an LC II, which I'm still working on). It's quite useful to see how assumptions people mak…
What part of SSH takes 6 minutes?
Maybe the encryption on older hardware?
Re: If you're happy with OpenBSD, probably any computer is good enough
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This. The thing I dislike the most about openbsd is the lack of modern, supported hardware. One notable exception is the PC Engines APU 2, though that’s stretching the definition of modern. Seriously: Pick a laptop SKU that is still being manufactured and has similar ergonomics to a MacBook Pro or classic thinkpad (centered keyboard + trackpad, 4K screen, all the other bits in the right spots, reasonably quiet, 8 hou…
The biggest things that OpenBSD doesn't support (well) are Bluetooth, some wifi cards and TPM modules. And you can literally fix all of these issues with a supported USB device. Been running OpenBSD on multiple generations of Thinkpad laptops without issue. Using the Protectli 6 port device as an OpenBSD router (Intel NICs are well-supported).
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