How is this different from any other warez site that has been on the Internet since the mid 90s? They [ninjavideo] were not even hosting the content, just linking to megaupload/wherever, what about filestube.com/library.nu/demonoid/usenet? Anonymous will LOVE to hear about this.
US Authorities Silence NinjaVideo Founder, Rush Her to Prison
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Re: US Authorities Silence NinjaVideo Founder, Rush Her to Prison
#132Earlier quoted context omitted.
As long as it is illegal, it is technically correct for them to be punished. Some laws, however, are too absurd to remain. Piracy, for me is certainly not about not wanting to pay. It's about the feeling that the money I pay mostly doesn't go to creators, but to the companies in-between who doesn't deserve it. I don't want to support such an industry. It also the fact that I want to push for legal alternatives which…
Let's say I ran a startup and secured $20M in VC funding but had to give up 80% of the company to get that, then later had several additional large rounds of financing which diluted my ownership to 5%. Would you rip off my company's products/services because you feel I'm not getting most of the profit? I'm curious to know how the two situations differ. In both cases, parties have entered into contractual agreements t…
piracy != lost sale.
If you get 0 cents with piracy, you will get the same 0 cents without it.
Re: US Authorities Silence NinjaVideo Founder, Rush Her to Prison
#133Earlier quoted context omitted.
Then you go to jail, simple.
So, you think that folks who commit fraud shouldn't go to jail, presumably because "Oh god no, definitely not. Monetary damages, yes. Prison sentences for a non-violent crime, definitely not." (from the parent), but disobeying a judge deserves jail. What's violent about disobeying a judge?
It's not that it's violent, it's that you've been given an option that you've decided not to take, and then it escalates.
Re: US Authorities Silence NinjaVideo Founder, Rush Her to Prison
#134Earlier quoted context omitted.
Let's say I ran a startup and secured $20M in VC funding but had to give up 80% of the company to get that, then later had several additional large rounds of financing which diluted my ownership to 5%. Would you rip off my company's products/services because you feel I'm not getting most of the profit? I'm curious to know how the two situations differ. In both cases, parties have entered into contractual agreements t…
piracy != lost sale. If you get 0 cents with piracy, you will get the same 0 cents without it.
In case you missed this paragraph:
"Piracy, for me is certainly not about not wanting to pay.
It's about the feeling that the money I pay mostly doesn't
go to creators, but to the companies in-between who doesn't
deserve it. I don't want to support such an industry."
"I want to pay, but the creators don't get most of the money.
So rather than paying, I pirate instead."
Re: US Authorities Silence NinjaVideo Founder, Rush Her to Prison
#135Earlier quoted context omitted.
Oh god no, definitely not. Monetary damages, yes. Prison sentences for a non-violent crime, definitely not.
Just to play devil's advocate here, what you're saying is that folks like Bernie Madoff should not go to prison.
There is a big difference between fraud and infringement. I don't see how they are similar at all.
Re: US Authorities Silence NinjaVideo Founder, Rush Her to Prison
#136Earlier quoted context omitted.
I took "RIP free speech" to imply that he thinks that this case marks some sort of change in how free speech is handled, which it does not. If he was instead trying to make a general argument that convicts should not have their rights restricted while they have not completed their term, or if he was arguing that prosecuting someone for massive willful copyright infringement is a violation of their rights, then I misu…
She ;) I think the whole thing is disgusting and wrong. And I think that she was railroaded off because of the views she expressed post-sentencing--they were trying to make an example of her and "send waves through this community"* and she was standing up and taking it while disagreeing instead of bending over and whimpering with remorse. It's cruel, disproportionate, unjust and, frankly, mentally ill. This is not wh…
Have an up vote (Natsu too) because you are both getting grayed out, even though your responses to mine are perfectly civil and reasonable.
I wish people would reserve down votes for comments that are expressed offensively or are blatantly off topic.
Re: US Authorities Silence NinjaVideo Founder, Rush Her to Prison
#137Earlier quoted context omitted.
As long as it is illegal, it is technically correct for them to be punished. Some laws, however, are too absurd to remain. Piracy, for me is certainly not about not wanting to pay. It's about the feeling that the money I pay mostly doesn't go to creators, but to the companies in-between who doesn't deserve it. I don't want to support such an industry. It also the fact that I want to push for legal alternatives which…
Let's say I ran a startup and secured $20M in VC funding but had to give up 80% of the company to get that, then later had several additional large rounds of financing which diluted my ownership to 5%. Would you rip off my company's products/services because you feel I'm not getting most of the profit? I'm curious to know how the two situations differ. In both cases, parties have entered into contractual agreements t…
I believe that record companies essentially scam their artists (See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcwgdB0NltY for example). I wouldn't think the same way about your company, since you've made a larger part of the decision yourself.
The issue also remains, that by buying a product from one of the large companies would mean I'm indirectly sponsoring SOPA. This would not be the case, I hope, when I buy a product from your company.
Re: US Authorities Silence NinjaVideo Founder, Rush Her to Prison
#138Re: US Authorities Silence NinjaVideo Founder, Rush Her to Prison
#139Earlier quoted context omitted.
She ;) I think the whole thing is disgusting and wrong. And I think that she was railroaded off because of the views she expressed post-sentencing--they were trying to make an example of her and "send waves through this community"* and she was standing up and taking it while disagreeing instead of bending over and whimpering with remorse. It's cruel, disproportionate, unjust and, frankly, mentally ill. This is not wh…
Have an up vote (Natsu too) because you are both getting grayed out, even though your responses to mine are perfectly civil and reasonable. I wish people would reserve down votes for comments that are expressed offensively or are blatantly off topic.
Thanks. I agree.
Re: US Authorities Silence NinjaVideo Founder, Rush Her to Prison
#140Earlier quoted context omitted.
piracy != lost sale. If you get 0 cents with piracy, you will get the same 0 cents without it.
In case you missed this paragraph: "Piracy, for me is certainly not about not wanting to pay. It's about the feeling that the money I pay mostly doesn't go to creators, but to the companies in-between who doesn't deserve it. I don't want to support such an industry." Paraphrased: "I want to pay, but the creators don't get most of the money. So rather than paying, I pirate instead." This invalidates your argument.
It should be self-evident that not all people are like the author of the paragraph you cited.