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Gattaca is still pertinent 25 years later

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Re: Gattaca is still pertinent 25 years later

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Mike Judge with his Idiocracy and Office Space is almost like someone had a crystal ball for early 21st century.

Office Space is pure genius and I was flabbergasted not to see it more popular. I am glad Judge got much bigger break with Silicon Valley.

Maybe I am dating myself but Office Space was always popular.

Re: Gattaca is still pertinent 25 years later

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No joke, this film helped me get over really bad mental stuff. That the human spirit can sort of compensate for pretty much anything is what I find beautiful. But the bad side is the faustian bargain, the sacrifice.

Same for me. I often think about this movie along with your point about how some people have to pay more for their dreams. The way that I think about things now I think reflects the protagonist in the movie: In many ways it doesn't matter. The goal and the obsession that some people have is so all-consumming that they'd pay any price to achieve it.

There's a scene where ethan hawke's character has to go through a painful bone procedure to adjust his height and he comforts himself by thinking he's a few inches closer to the stars.

Everything is just about coming one step closer to the goal regardless of if it can be reached or if someone else can get there faster.

Re: Gattaca is still pertinent 25 years later

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post #60

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The part that I could never get over is that the discrimination against the main character actually made sense. He's trying to hide his heart condition to go in an important space mission. edit: HN is rate limiting me so I can't reply, but to davesque's comment below: > no one wants to live in a world where their life and capabilities are pre-determined But we do live in that world. It was determined that I would nev…

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Then it's not good writing, because it isn't a statistical probability in the movie. We actually see that he has a heart condition.

Re: Gattaca is still pertinent 25 years later

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I found it really hard to relate to any of the characters in the film, to the point where they were barely recognizable as humans. Does it make sense, in a world like the one in Gattaca, for a person that is part of a discriminated class, to go into space, instead of trying to change the society around him to be less discriminatory? It seemed to me like the whole effort was a self-motivated, flaccid revenge fantasy t…

if you are broadly discriminated against I think it makes perfect sense that you focus on one, important thing and try to overcome that. Otherwise you'll just continually be beat down and get nowhere. I think the film does a good job showing this realistic path.

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I believe advances in AI will make the core plot idea of the film obsolete. It is a good movie, but even the most genetically perfect human will probably not have a fraction of the intelligence of AI. He will be, relatively speaking, a mere dummy like the rest of us. Thus the future as shown in this film will not happen. However, good sci-fi is actually always about the present. And the movie has a lot of interesting…

From what I remember the film didn't focus on intelligence. The main character suffers from genetic disorders that affect his health and lifespan, plus discrimination based on his 'invalid' status. All of that is still very relevant regardless of any progress with AGI.

IQ was mentioned a couple times in the film, and the main character was shown studying very hard to keep up with his job. The fact that it wasn't the sole focus of the selection program was a consequence of the whole society wanting to do it. It wasn't a bunch of super-nerds doing something weird, the idea was that every part of our society's conception of achievement and "human quality" had been folded in to the nightmare, which made it inescapable.

Re: Gattaca is still pertinent 25 years later

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this line lives so deep in my brain: "You want to know how I did it? I never saved anything for the swim back"

I never understood that. I don't think the movie is clear exactly what happens, but he... does swim back, right? Or does he just flounder and rely on his brother bringing him back?

Re: Gattaca is still pertinent 25 years later

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> Does it make sense, in a world like the one in Gattaca, for a person that is part of a discriminated class, to go into space, instead of trying to change the society around him to be less discriminatory? I think this is a little naive. Why should every member of an underclass have to fight the good fight vs improve their own personal position? IMO, the latter is much more likely.

And when the news gets out a underclass achieved something great it may change things.

definitely - look at sports, academics, etc. Once something "impossible" gets completed, it gets repeated more frequently and widely than you'd expect.
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